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Kramer vs Kramer File for Generation X page[edit]
Hello, I have tried to add a photo to the Generation X page to symbolize the divorce culture in the US during the 1970s, in line with the text. In the history section of the Generation X page, the image was deleted. As such, in line with Non-free use rationale guideline, I added the following on the file page File:Oscar_posters_79.jpg#filehistory to justify its use, what more must I do?
I appreciate any feedback. "The image is significant because the film epitomize the divorce culture in the US during the 1970s, relevant to the text." — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 11:29, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- @FrenchScholar: I've removed all but the relevant statement of the rationale from what you posted. This is about WP:NFCC#8 which states "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." So it's all about context. If there is sourced critical commentary that says that Kramer vs Kramer epitomises divorce culture of the period and Generation X in particular then it may be enough to substantiate the use of the poster in the Generation X article but you need to ensure that sourced critical commentary is included in the Generation X article. Even then you need to justify why the reader needs to see the film poster rather than just a mention of the film. Nthep (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- 13:03, 14 March 2020 (UTC)Hello again
- Thank you, I am trying to publish the image on the page but it does not register, any idea why? ::File below:
- File:Oscar posters 79.jpg— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 13:03, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- It's missing a ] after Kramer. But this doesn't answer the previous point about establishing context. Nthep (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- 13:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)Thank you, I will add context.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 13:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- @FrenchScholar: I’m afraid that there’s not going to be any way the the non-free use of the film’s poster in the “Generation X” could be justified per Wikipedia’s non-free content use policy. Even if you’re able to find critical commentary in reliable sources (not original research) which states the film does epitomize divorce for that generation, there’s still no real reason per WP:FREER, WP:NFC#CS and item 6 of WP:NFC#UUI to justify using the film’s poster in that article. The only possible way such a use might be justifiable would be if the poster itself, not just the film, was actually the subject of critical commentary saying that the poster, not the film, epitomizes divorce. Even in that case, a link to the film’s Wikipedia article would still be preferable to using the actual file.Finally, please take a look at WP:TILDE and make sure to try and sign your talk page posts. Signing your posts makes it easier for others to see that it’s you posting and know when you posted. — Marchjuly (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- 13:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)Thank you, I will add context.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 13:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- It's missing a ] after Kramer. But this doesn't answer the previous point about establishing context. Nthep (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- File:Oscar posters 79.jpg— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 13:03, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Unable to publish image on Generation X page, any reason why?[edit]
Thank you, I am trying to publish the image on the page but it does not register, any idea why? File below:
Many Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenchScholar (talk • contribs) 12:04, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi FrenchScholar. You seem to have asked the same question above as #Kramer vs Kramer File for Generation X page and Nthep has posted a reply. Please check Nthep’s answer and if there’s something you still don’t understand, feel free to respond to him in that thread. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
File:NorthernTrains.svg[edit]
The image File:NorthernTrains.svg is claimed by JaJaWa (talk · contribs), its uploader, as |Source=Northern |Author=Northern but I believe that these are far too vague for our purposes. At the very least the full name of the organisation should be provided. I see that at https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/ a very similar logo is displayed, and that page shows "© 2020 Northern Trains Limited. All Rights Reserved." at the very bottom. Is this a matter for WP:FFD, or is there a WP:CSD criterion that applies? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:06, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- This logo looks too simple to be eligible for copyright protection in the US per c:COM:TOO United States, but not simple enough to be not eligible for copyright protection in the UK per c:COM:TOO United Kingdom. In cases like this the license {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} is often used, which kind of seems to be what the uploader was trying to here in a roundabout way. So, there doesn’t seem to be a copyright based reason for deleting the file. The question then has to do with whether this is really the logo used by Northern Trains. The link you provided above seems to suggest that it is which means that contextually the file seems also OK to use. The only thing that seems to be needed then is to further clarify the source of the logo (even provide a link to NR’s official website) on the file’s page and replace the two copyright licenses currently being used with
{{PD-ineligible-USonly|United Kingdom}}. —- Marchjuly (talk) 12:28, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Ask for Angela[edit]
I have a student who would like to upload an image of an "Ask for Angela" poster. The posters in question are copyrighted, so my question here is whether or not these could qualify under fair use guidelines. The poster would be something along the lines of this. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- On one hand it may not be absolutely necessary, but on the other I do think that the poster would be helpful in the same way that the book covers are, as they would help identify the topic in ways that words alone couldn't. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)