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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
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- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 31 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 28 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 27 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 26 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 25 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 24 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 23 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 22 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 21 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
| II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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| II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update TemplateName, ProposedName and Reason): For ==== Template:TemplateName ====
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lt|TemplateName}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~
For ==== Template:TemplateName ==== :* '''Propose renaming''' [[Template:TemplateName]] to [[Template:ProposedName]] :'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd-notify|Category name|2020 March 18|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd-notify}} to inform the category's creator and {{Cfdnotice2}} for all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} - List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there are no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 15:13, 16 March 2020 (UTC). Currently, there are 90 open requests ().
| Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
- Category:Voodoo practicioners to Category:Voodoo practitioners – C2A. John of Reading (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:2020 IAAF World Indoor Championships to Category:2021 World Athletics Indoor Championships – C2D: Event has been postponed to a year later. The article has been moved, but the category still hasn't been moved, and now it should be moved. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:27, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Case Western Reserve University presidents to Category:Presidents of Case Western Reserve University – C2C: convention in Category:Presidents by university or college in the United States. Oculi (talk) 16:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:American university and college presidents to Category:Heads of American universities and colleges – C2C: In line with Category:Heads of universities and colleges by country. Not all of them are called presidents. Rathfelder (talk) 15:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Heads of universities and colleges in the United States seems a more obvious name to me ('in the United States' is C2C and the 'heads' formulation follows several cfds such as 2019 June 28#Category:University and college chancellors by country). It should be noted that there is also Category:Presidents by university or college in the United States. Oculi (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Charice Pempengco albums to Category:Jake Zyrus albums – C2D; this person has transitioned and now goes by Jake Zyrus.--vaporgaze💬 19:20, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Charice Pempengco songs to Category:Jake Zyrus songs
- These seem OK as C2D, see Talk:Jake_Zyrus#Requested_move_26_August_2017. – Fayenatic London 22:49, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Charice Pempengco songs to Category:Jake Zyrus songs
- Category:People with ptosis to Category:People with ptosis (eyelid) – Per C2D, and also because the current title is ambiguous, as multiple medical conditions are known as ptosis, as you can see at the Ptosis dab page. However, the people included in the category make it clear that the title is referring to Ptosis (eyelid).--vaporgaze💬 18:58, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Sports clothing to Category:Sportswear – Main article: Sportswear. PPEMES (talk) 15:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Angels in art to Category:Angels in visual arts, C2C per Category:Visual arts by subject which was renamed in full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Animals in art to Category:Animals in visual arts
- Category:Bathing in art to Category:Bathing in visual arts
- Category:Books in art to Category:Books in visual arts
- Category:Bridges in art to Category:Bridges in visual arts
- Category:Churches in art to Category:Churches in visual arts
- Category:Cities in art to Category:Cities in visual arts
Category:Climate change in art to Category:Climate change in visual arts- Category:Clowns in art to Category:Clowns in visual arts
- Category:Crosses in art to Category:Crosses in visual arts
- Category:Dacia in art to Category:Dacia in visual arts
- Category:Dance in art to Category:Dance in visual arts
- Category:Death in art to Category:Death in visual arts
- Category:Deities in art to Category:Deities in visual arts
- Category:Farming in art to Category:Farming in visual arts
- Category:Flags in art to Category:Flags in visual arts
- Category:Hunting in art to Category:Hunting in visual arts
- Category:Maps in art to Category:Maps in visual arts
- Category:Medicine in art to Category:Medicine in visual arts
- Category:Mermaids in art to Category:Mermaids in visual arts
- Category:Moon in art to Category:Moon in visual arts
- Category:Musical instruments in art to Category:Musical instruments in visual arts
- Category:Mythology in art to Category:Mythology in visual arts
- Category:Art depicting people to Category:Visual arts depicting people
- Oppose this. Does not match the other categories. --Gonnym (talk) 08:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- It does match the "visual arts" in the parent category though, that is what this nomination is about. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose this. Does not match the other categories. --Gonnym (talk) 08:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Plants in art to Category:Plants in visual arts
- Category:Science in art to Category:Science in visual arts
- Category:Scouting in art to Category:Scouting in visual arts
- Category:Seashells in art to Category:Seashells in visual arts
- Category:Slavery in art to Category:Slavery in visual arts
- Category:Sports in art to Category:Sports in visual arts
- Category:Sun in art to Category:Sun in visual arts
- Category:Torture in art to Category:Torture in visual arts
- Category:Transport in art to Category:Transport in visual arts
Category:Universities and colleges in art to Category:Universities and colleges in visual arts- Category:Water in art to Category:Water in visual arts
- Why is there an 's' at the end of each, "...in visual art" works much better. These don't necessary improve the names and make the category names longer. But particularly oppose Category:Universities and colleges in visual arts as the topics included in the category are not works of visual art. This also applies to Category:Climate change in visual arts, which includes other than links to sculptures, paintings, and drawings which define what visual art categories include. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle, you may not have seen this comment. Please drop 's' in 'visual arts' to 'visual art' on your requests. Timrollpickering, please see the discussion which you closed, most of the 'Support' ivotes were for 'visual art' and not 'visual arts' (possibly you can amend it before a bot starts in on changing to a incorrect name, thanks). And opposing the two I mention above.Randy Kryn (talk) 15:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Randy Kryn Thanks for pointing out the two exceptions. But visual arts (with s) is common language, isn't it? Why else is the article named Visual arts? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- To me, it should be 'in visual art' or 'in the visual arts' (it is at present 'in art', not 'in arts' - 'in the arts' would be OK). Oculi (talk) 18:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- That's making it longer (in the arts). 'Moon in art' to 'Moon in visual art' seems concise enough, and the consensus of the linked discussion seems to favor 'in visual art' without the 's'. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for these art categories, because this doesn't seem like a speedy change that can happen without discussion first. Each category needs to be discussed for if it's known as "visual art" vs "art", per valid points brought up in the original discussion. Even though this is the parent category, it doesn't mean that's the category people were assuming when they were tagging "art." Art and visual art can be very different, and it's a lot more work to overhaul 10-20 categories now and then have to manually go through all of the tags and change any that aren't necessarily "visual," then at least having a discussion first about which of these should be kept, changed, or moved to be under "Art" as a parent. Whisperjanes (talk) 03:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:Wikipedians interested in Back to the Future to Category:Wikipedians interested in Back to the Future (franchise) – C2D: Back to the Future (franchise). Gonnym (talk) 11:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_24#Category:Back_to_the_Future. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians interested in Nightmare on Elm Street to Category:Wikipedians interested in A Nightmare on Elm Street (franchise) – C2D: A Nightmare on Elm Street (franchise). Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_25#Category:A_Nightmare_on_Elm_Street. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Back to the Future to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) – C2D: Back to the Future (franchise). This is a franchise category. Gonnym (talk) 20:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Back to the Future soundtracks to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) soundtracks
- Category:Music from the Back to the Future (franchise) to Category:Music from Back to the Future (franchise)
- Category:Back to the Future franchise media to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) media
- Category:Back to the Future technology to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) technology
- Category:Back to the Future images to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) images
- Category:Back to the Future user templates to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) user templates
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_July_24#Category:Back_to_the_Future. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to Category:Sitcoms fan user templates – C2C: Category:Sitcoms. Gonnym (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gonnym The same as bellow, this should be renamed to Category:Sitcom fan user templates. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- This can be relisted for speedy renaming after closure of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_March_10#Category:Game_show_fan_user_templates. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Against renaming to Category:Sitcoms fan user templates. It would be better to rename Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to the much better name of Category:Sitcom television series fan user templates. This would help to make the categories more uniform looking. What do you think @Marcocapelle: and @Armbrust:. Catfurball (talk) 20:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Catfurball I don't think that's a good idea. There is no Category:Sitcom television series, just Category:Sitcoms. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:17, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: and @Marcocapelle: how about renaming Category:Sitcom show fan user templates to Category:Comedy television series fan user templates instead. 15:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- That wouldn't be a proposal for speedy renaming, would it? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've opposed two of the 'in arts' requests above, as well as suggested that all 'visual arts' drop the 's' and become 'visual art'. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Tudeh Party of Iran politicians to Category:Tudeh Party of Iran members – The term 'member' is more convenient and includes all, even those who were not 'politician' in the traditional sense: Ebrahim Golestan, Ahmad Shamlou, etc. Pahlevun (talk) 17:24, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Pahlevun the request needs to meet one of the above speedy criteria C2A to C2E, otherwise you need to go through the full WP:Categories for discussion process. Also most subcategories of Category:Iranian politicians by party end in "politicians" not "members". TSventon (talk) 18:55, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pahlevun (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Pahlevun I think you are expected to move the speedy request to this section when you start a full discussion, but you may not have realised that as I can't see any instructions on the page. TSventon (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pahlevun (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Pahlevun the request needs to meet one of the above speedy criteria C2A to C2E, otherwise you need to go through the full WP:Categories for discussion process. Also most subcategories of Category:Iranian politicians by party end in "politicians" not "members". TSventon (talk) 18:55, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:10th-century kings of Germany to Category:10th-century Kings of the Romans, C2D per King of the Romans and C2C per Category:Kings of the Romans. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century kings of Germany to Category:11th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:12th-century kings of Germany to Category:12th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:13th-century kings of Germany to Category:13th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:14th-century kings of Germany to Category:14th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:15th-century kings of Germany to Category:15th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:16th-century kings of Germany to Category:16th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:17th-century kings of Germany to Category:17th-century Kings of the Romans
- Category:18th-century kings of Germany to Category:18th-century Kings of the Romans
- Oppose speedy per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_August_3#Kings_of_the_Romans_or_kings_of_Germany. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- That was a merge proposal, not a rename proposal. In hindsight it should have been a reverse merge and I do not remember or understand why I did not (solely) propose a reverse merge back then, but anyhow I cannot see how that merge discussion makes this speedy rename proposal controversial. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Isn't "Kings of the Romans" highly redundant to Category:11th-century Holy Roman Emperors and so on? --mfb (talk) 09:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- In the Middle Ages it is certainly not redundant. Many Kings of the Romans have not been crowned Holy Roman Emperor. In the Early Modern period it becomes much more overlapping though. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Isn't "Kings of the Romans" highly redundant to Category:11th-century Holy Roman Emperors and so on? --mfb (talk) 09:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:38, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians who like The Godfather to Category:Wikipedians who like The Godfather (film series) – C2D: The Godfather (film series). Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Godfather (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Armbrust. "Fans" and "like" categories fail WP:UCAT's requirement that user cats must be "to aid in facilitating coordination and collaboration". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well 7 of the 11 subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series use "interested in", so oppose as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Godfather (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians who are fans of The Hunger Games movie to Category:Wikipedians who are fans of The Hunger Games (film series) – C2D: The Hunger Games (film series). Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Hunger Games (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well 7 of the 11 subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series use "interested in", so oppose as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Armbrust. "Fans" and "like" categories fail WP:UCAT's requirement that user cats must be "to aid in facilitating coordination and collaboration". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- No one style used in Category:Wikipedians by interest in a film series. TV series for example, use "who like". --Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in The Hunger Games (film series)? Armbrust The Homunculus 01:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Game show fan user templates to Category:Television game shows fan user templates – C2C: Category:Television game shows. Gonnym (talk) 19:55, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gonnym Did you mean Category:Television game show fan user templates? I don't double pluralisation is needed here. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Islamia College (Lahore) alumni to Category:Government Islamia College, Lahore alumni – C2D. Störm (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose A geographic disambiguator is needed That should be the comma. Is would support an alternative name of Category:Islamia College alumni, Lahore or Category:Alumni of Islamia College, Lahore. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Laurel Lodged: I think the target name in the nomination is standard, e.g. Category:University of Agriculture, Faisalabad alumni. – Fayenatic London 14:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- The article is Government Islamia College, Lahore so this is completely standard, as nominated. Oculi (talk) 09:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. – Fayenatic London 11:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose A geographic disambiguator is needed That should be the comma. Is would support an alternative name of Category:Islamia College alumni, Lahore or Category:Alumni of Islamia College, Lahore. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of historical period drama films to Category:Lists of historical drama films - C2D (Historical drama) - MapReader (talk) 14:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article was only recently moved and without discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- There’s an item on the talk page of the article. Should be (and so far proving) uncontroversial; ‘historical period drama’ is a tautology. Check Encyclopaedia Britannica, where ‘historical drama’ is the accepted category. MapReader (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article was only recently moved and without discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Fox Family original programming to Category:Fox Family Channel original programming – C2D: The article doesn't exist, but the redirect Fox Family Channel to the section History of Freeform (TV channel)#Fox Family does. The article says
The Family Channel was renamed Fox Family Channel – though on-air promotions typically referred to the network as just "Fox Family"
. Seeing how Fox Family is a redirect to Fox family, the official name is a natural disambiguation here. Gonnym (talk) 05:18, 2 February 2020 (UTC)- Oppose speedy If there is no article on the channel, then C2D can't possible apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Feb 11. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted again at CFD 2020 Mar 5. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:29, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Hokkaido Legislative Assembly to Category:Members of the Hokkaido Prefectural Assembly – C2D. ミラP 18:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Only recently renamed and without discussion, so C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Mistresses of schools to Category:British headmistresses – C2C: Like the other categories in Category:Women school principals and headteachers. All the biographies are British Rathfelder (talk) 10:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy No clear convention in Category:Women school principals and headteachers. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should be renamed to something since Category:Mistresses serves a quite different purpose. Oculi (talk) 17:39, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: the proposed name is consistent with the other subcategories of "Women school principals and headteachers", which are American headmistresses, Australian headmistresses and Austrian headmistresses. TSventon (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- The convention in Category:School principals and headteachers is completely different. Oculi (talk) 22:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: the proposed name is consistent with the other subcategories of "Women school principals and headteachers", which are American headmistresses, Australian headmistresses and Austrian headmistresses. TSventon (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Dynasty (TV series) to Category:Dynasty (franchise) – C2C: There currently is no Dynasty (franchise) article, but this category is a container for 3 related TV series, Dynasty (1981 TV series), The Colbys and Dynasty (2017 TV series). Dynasty (TV series) redirects to a dab page as there are other unrelated series with this name. Gonnym (talk) 11:00, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no category that has "Dynasty (franchise)" in its title, so C2C clearly doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- np, this can be moved to regular discussion. Thought this might be uncontroversial with "(franchise)" being a standard in these situations, but have no problem with moving it to a normal discussion. --Gonnym (talk) 09:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- This has been moved to full discussion. – Fayenatic London 23:11, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- np, this can be moved to regular discussion. Thought this might be uncontroversial with "(franchise)" being a standard in these situations, but have no problem with moving it to a normal discussion. --Gonnym (talk) 09:44, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no category that has "Dynasty (franchise)" in its title, so C2C clearly doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:ITV to Category:ITV (TV network) – C2D: Article is at ITV (TV network). Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I know the company very well. There are subcats in the category that are not limited to the networks, such as Category:ITV people; given an admittedly close call such as this one, I think the preference is for the top-level category to match the ultimate corporate parent. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- It has meanwhile been moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration – C2C - Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:00, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Oppose There is just one other category to used the proposed format (Category:United States cabinet members from Nebraska), so C2C doesn't apply. (The second is also a subcategory of Category:United States Executive Cabinet navigational boxes). Armbrust The Homunculus 19:27, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Feb 9. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:40, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish television series to Category:Television series about Jews and Judaism – per C2C NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This probably shouldn't go ahead speedily as long as 2 similar categories are in the opposed section. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. As before C2C applies to Category:Religious television series as well. --Gonnym (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish-related television programs to Category:Television programs about Jews and Judaism – C2C within parent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_30#Category:Buddhism-related_television_episodes. – Fayenatic London 14:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose as proposed: Seems Category:Works about Jews and Judaism is the odd one in Category:Works about religion and it should probably be the one changed and this be Category:Television programs about Judaism. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television episodes about Judaism to Category:Television episodes about Jews and Judaism – C2C within grandparent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I support the rename, and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future. Same for the other category above. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Concurring with Debresser. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: would you be prepared to withdraw your opposition to these two? – Fayenatic London 15:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'd like to understand what the argument "and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future" means. If they both support a split, then why don't we do it now? It's not like the category has hundreds of entries. We're talking about 16 pages. --Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't read it as support for the split, just openness to a further discussion which could cover the relevant hierarchy in one go. That would clearly be beyond the scope of this Speedy page. – Fayenatic London 08:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Then I'm sorry, I don't see how changing this category to be consistent with one parent, but inconsistent with another, makes it any better than the current style. Lumping two similar but different topics (religion and ethnicity) in the same category makes less sense than fixing the categories. --Gonnym (talk) 08:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london That is indeed what I had in mind, but since Gonnym opposes this speedy proposal and the discussion is going to have to take place sooner or later, I propose to make this a full Cfd discussion at this stage. Debresser (talk) 11:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't read it as support for the split, just openness to a further discussion which could cover the relevant hierarchy in one go. That would clearly be beyond the scope of this Speedy page. – Fayenatic London 08:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'd like to understand what the argument "and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future" means. If they both support a split, then why don't we do it now? It's not like the category has hundreds of entries. We're talking about 16 pages. --Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: would you be prepared to withdraw your opposition to these two? – Fayenatic London 15:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Concurring with Debresser. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- I support the rename, and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future. Same for the other category above. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People from Manchester (district) to Category:People from the City of Manchester – C2C: to match the rest of Category:People from Greater Manchester Rathfelder (talk) 08:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - per Manchester, parent cat Category:Manchester, lack of article City of Manchester etc. Oculi (talk) 09:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "City of Manchester" is the correct disambiguator per WP:UKDISTRICTS so C2B might be possible here (although something like Category:People from the Metropolitan Borough of Manchester might actually be better to prevent confusion with other places like Old Trafford that would probably be thought of as being part of the city (but aren't part of the district). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:24, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- WP:UKDISTRICTS explicitly gives Manchester as the correct term, in the bulleted para beginning "In around 45 cases". Oculi (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's because it isn't split in article space, similar to the fact that although Solihull and Metropolitan Borough of Solihull exist in mainspace, only Category:Solihull exists for both terms (though there is a separate people from category). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- There is a simultaneous full discussion about this. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- This was relisted at CFD 2020 Jan 23. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
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