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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
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December 3 1
December 17 1
December 19 1
December 23 1
December 26 1
December 27 1
December 31 1
January 5 1
January 6 1
January 9 1
January 14 1
January 17 1
January 26 1
January 27 1
January 29 1
January 30 1
February 1 1
February 2 3
February 3 3
February 4 2 1
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February 12 3
February 13 1
February 14 2
February 15 2
February 16 3
February 17 2
February 18 5 1
February 19 4 2
February 20 4 1
February 21 3
February 22 1 1
February 23 5 1
February 24 5 2
February 25 7 3
February 26 6 3
February 27 3 1
February 28 3 1
February 29 8 5
March 1 12 9
March 2 8 3
March 3 8 5
March 4 13 6
March 5 7 3
March 6 10 5
March 7 11 7
March 8 9 5
March 9 8 3
March 10 9 4
March 11 13 5
March 12 7 3
March 13 7 1
March 14 11 2
March 15 8
March 16 8
March 17 3
March 18 2
Total 248 84
Last updated 13:41, 18 March 2020 UTC
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Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 3[edit]

Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski

Created by Cyzbig (talk) and Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 10:52, 6 December 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough (3 December), long enough (2,170), NPOV, effective use of inline citations. No obvious copyvio, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing. Hook is interesting and short enough and cited inline and verifiable. Adequate QPQ provided. Good to go with ALT0. Cowlibob (talk) 21:08, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but this article gives no background or biography about the people the page is named for. Right now it is better named Rescue of Irena Sznycer. Can you provide any biographical details about the couple themselves? Yoninah (talk) 00:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for picking this up, I apologise for not doing so. It looks like all the information is around her rescue. The only details that are present are the year of birth and death of the couple, where they lived and how many children they had. So this article needs to be edited to redirect the focus. Cowlibob (talk) 13:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
@Piotrus and Cyzbig: Courtesy ping regarding above issue. Cowlibob (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah and Cowlibob: Most biographies of the Righteous Among the Nations follow a similar format - they are individuals who are otherwise not notable for much else in their lives, and not much else is known about them outside the events related to WWII. The topic is notable and the article is long enough and as such I think it is eligible for DYK. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Piotrus, no one has said that the article is not notable, long enough or ineligible for DYK. Yoninah simply suggested renaming the article to a more appropriate title, or otherwise adding more biographical details to make the current title more appropriate. 97198 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough, through my reply to this is that I think the article has an appropriate focus (or at least standard). So while more expansion would be nice I do not think it is likely. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:24, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the orphan tag from the article as it's no longer applicable. Might be worth adding a few more links to existing articles though (and maybe the nav template at the bottom. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:47, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
  • The issue here seems to be the name of the article and its focus: Piotrus maintains that it's standard for those who are Righteous Among the Nations and that further expansion is unlikely, while Yoninah, Cowlibob and 97198 appear to be saying that if it's titled with the Brogowskis, it needs to have more details about their lives instead of being almost entirely about the sheltering of Irena Sznycer, but that it could be given a more appropriate title to reflect the rescue. The nomination is now the oldest DYK remaining, a day short of three months old. If there is no willingness to pass it because of the focus issues, and Piotrus is unwilling to address these issues, then perhaps the time has come to consider closing it. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Look, I am willing to address the issue, but it is impossible. There is no more info to add, and the article has the same focus as the main two references: [1], [2]. Please tell me what content can be added, or why we should have different focus from Yad Vashem. PS. I will also note that the article has just been restructured and expanded a bit by User:Mary Mark Ockerbloom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Regrettably, I cannot recommend this DYK for promotion. Not to cast any shadow on the meritorious deeds of the article subject, I simply don't see how this meets WP:N. For things of this nature, Yad Vashem is a primary source, and there just doesn't seem to be much in the way of independent coverage of their actions. Furthermore, I don't think the hook is very good. were posthumously recognised as Righteous Among the Nations for having sheltered a Jewish girl during the Holocaust — yes, that is what Righteous Among the Nations is awarded for. What makes this different from the other tens of thousands of such rescue attempts? Note: Piotrus requested my feedback at User talk:Buidhe. buidhe 05:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

  • As it has been 10 days since BlueMoonset's last comment and the titling issue has not been addressed, I am recommending that this nomination be marked for closure as unsuccessful. There doesn't appear to be any path forward here unless the requested title change or expansions are made, and if those are not forthcoming, then there appears to be no other option. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:56, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
    • What do you mean, not addressed? I replied to it, didn't I? The article has been restructured to address concerns raised. What more do you want? It meets DYK criteria. Feel free to take it to AfD is someone thinks it is not notable in the current form. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The hook and the article look fine to me. There are no DYK criteria issues and no policy or guideline issues. We don't need a full scale biography about the people in question, just the basic background stuff, which is included in the article. There is always room for improvement even in featured articles. The title is fine, but perhaps it could be retitled, though I would not use that by itself to block the nomination. Hook is very interesting, btw. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah and Piotrus: After doing a search for Irena Sznycer the results place just as much and more emphasis on Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski than they do Irena. Since Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski were also recognized as Righteous Among the Nations, it would seem the article title is best left as it is. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:41, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Agree with @Cowlibob:. Article is good to go, more so now. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:05, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Piotrus, if I may, is being a nice guy more than is necessary, considering the issues that have been handed him here in a DYK nomination forum. The issues at hand, such that they are, do not merit a AfD examination. The article should be good to go, and any minor issues that a given editor perceives, can be ironed out afterwards, if it's at all necessary. Personal opinions should take a back seat to DYK criteria, WP Policy, undue weight and the facts presented in a summary fashion, imo. Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski and their heart felt, and risky, efforts, are the ones who grabbed the attention of much of the world, and as such, the existing title should remain. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 17[edit]

Kambo cleanse

A kambo ceremony
A kambo ceremony
  • ... that people willingly burn their skin and spread frog poison on the wound to detox themselves (pictured)?

Created by OneUpOnUs (talk). Self-nominated at 22:42, 17 December 2019 (UTC).

  • Problematic from WP:NPOV/WP:FRINGE perspective, because people do not "detox" themselves, they attempt to "detox" themselves; and then this kind of detoxification is not actually a thing, it's a fake concept. Alexbrn (talk) 09:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I had the same concerns; a better phrasing might be something like
I completely agree with both of you, such an obvious mistake. I like SpicyMilkBoy's alternate hook and I also have a another suggestion (although I think I still prefer SpicyMilkBoy's).
  • ALT0b ... that people willingly burn their skin and spread frog poison on the wound in the mistaken belief that they are detoxing themselves (pictured)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OneUpOnUs (talk • contribs) 22:20, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Just a comment, the link is somewhat misleading because it looks like it would link to the detox article rather than Kambo cleanse. It's best to state the name of the article in the hook. :) SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 23:07, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
In that case I still prefer yours. OneUpOnUs (talk) 23:11, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
ALT0b could be interpreted to say that you can "detox" yourself, which in the alt-med sense is meaningless. ALTa works, but I'd suggest something more likely to pique curiosity than rejection. 04:56, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
In all of these suggestions, the reference is to "people." Is it better to say something like, "people in the West have been using a traditional medicine treatment..." or "indigenous people of South America have used Kambo cleanse, a practice that has spread to the West"? I don't think these specific suggestions are great, but note that it becomes clearer what is meant by "people." TheGreatConsultingDetective (talk) 09:22, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
That's a good point. Perhaps something like this (although the phrasing isn't so catchy - maybe someone else can punch it up):
  • ALT1: ... that kambo, a traditional practice among indigenous South Americans in which frog poison is applied to burnt skin, is used as alternative medicine in the West?
  • ALT0d ... that participants willingly burn their skin and apply frog poison to the wound in kambo, a South American folk medicine practice that has spread to the West?
I'm not sure about ALT0c because the "detoxification marketing myth" bit or equivalent wording isn't in the article and might be hard to include without getting into WP:SYNTH territory (even though it's obviously true). SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
The fact that something can kill you is always hooky. You'd almost think that we humans take an instinctive interest in learning about lethal dangers.Face-smile.svg The "marketing myth" is cited in the article liked to from "detoxification", which I think is acceptable, as that's what a reader will naturally click on if they want information about marketing myths.
There is a somewhat odd practice, especially in the US, of specifying ethnicity in medical contexts, despite the fact that it is usually either irrelevant or a proxy measure (say, for how many malarial ancestors you've had, or for poverty). I suspect this is an expression of a deep-running belief that the US-genic hypodescentic caste system has biological foundations (which it doesn't; biology is not hypodescentic). If the hook is talking about medical effects, not cultural context, I'm not sure that we need to distinguish traditional indigenous people from other people. The reader will probably figure out that we mean human people. While it's obvious that the Westerners modify the practice and use it differently, and this may make it more dangerous, frankly it would be more worth mentioning if they didn't, and this topic is a completely different hook. If we do go with a cultural hook (like ALT1 and ALT0d) we should say that the indigenous people are Panoans, rather than using only descriptive exonyms. HLHJ (talk) 21:10, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Very good points - to be clear, what led me to specify indigenous vs. Western use of the procedure is that it seems ahistorical to refer to the traditional practices as "pseudoscience", "alternative medicine", or "detoxing" - but it's fair enough to say that it should be assumed that the Western practices are different. We could bypass that issue entirely with a phrasing like
  • ALT2: ... that multiple deaths have been associated with the kambo cleanse, which involves burning one's skin and applying frog poison to the wound?
Except this hook doesn't explain exactly why people would do that - but maybe that'll make people want to click the link and find out. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 22:18, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
No that could work, the "cleanse" part hints at the reason why people do it enough I think OneUpOnUs (talk) 23:43, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Entirely agree on the ahistoricity; ALT0c, I think, accommodates this by addressing only the motives and outcomes for some participants (frankly, I know nothing about the traditional practice). "Cleanse" is a good hint, and we don't have to say why; ALT3 would be OK, though I think it weaker than ALT0c. HLHJ (talk) 02:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
That's a good option too. I think we might as well leave this up to the DYK reviewers now - we've given them a lot of hooks to choose from. And I'm getting tired of typing all these colons. :P SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 02:09, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Agreed. Although I've just thought, since "detox" does have some legitimate meanings, perhaps the wl should make this clear. HLHJ (talk) 16:56, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including of the various ALT hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Reviewing..., at least you guys gave me a lot to work with. Toreightyone (talk) 15:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Initial Review:

Article:
Newness:☑Y - created a day before nomination
Length:☑Y - 5664 B
Copyvio Check:☑Y - 36.7%, but the percentage is attributed to the quotes
Neutrality:☑Y
Grammar:☑Y
Sources:☑Y - every claim is sufficiently sourced, great use of scholarly articles

Hook:
Length:☑Y - all are <250 characters
Image:???? - For the image provided, I'm just curious as to where it mentions that the video is under CC BY-SA 3.0, usually Youtube videos would have to disclose the copyright within the description, within the video, or on their separate website. The only thing I found on [3] was that they reserve the rights to copyright.
Content: ☑Y - for ALTs 0a, 0d, 1, 4; I'll let the promoting admin decide as they all work
Neutrality:☑Y
Source:☑Y - within the article
QPQ:☑Y - Not required as first DYK nomination

Overall: Symbol question.svg Everything is good to go for ALTs 0a, 0d, 1, or 4, although some concerns need to be addressed regarding the image - please see the comments above. Thanks, Toreightyone (talk) 18:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your review. The video the image comes from is this one on YouTube, it mentions in the description that it's licensed under Creative Commons. When I click on the CC link in the video's description it takes me to a Youtube help page on CC. From there I clicked on the "CC BY" link taking me to the CC 3.0 page https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode which I understood to mean that the video was CC BY-SA 3.0 licensed. Hopefully I've done that correctly, it was my understanding that Youtube videos under CC license can be used? OneUpOnUs (talk) 00:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ... How did I not see that, I honestly don't know how I overlooked that. Everything is good to go! I also substituted the CC BY-SA 3.0 license on the commons page with a Youtube-specific template. Thanks, Toreightyone (talk) 02:21, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
No problem :) OneUpOnUs (talk) 02:30, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote ALT4, but there is no mention of the detoxification marketing myth in the article. The talk page also has a lengthy discussion of the impartiality of the article, so this will not be promoted anytime soon. Yoninah (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, I agree it's not yet ready. The article has some MEDRS problems (I think I've fixed or templated most of them). "Myth" is cited in the detox article to which it links; it this acceptable, or should it be repeated in the main linked article too? That kambo is a "detox" variant is now cited in the article, along with "detox" being a marketing strategy. HLHJ (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Wanted to comment in support of ALT0a. It's straight to the point and makes it clear that detoxing is a psuedoscience. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 19:20, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

  • As the nominator hasn't been on Wikipedia since early February and there hasn't been many updates to this nomination in over a month, the issues will need to be addressed or else the nomination may be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for commenting Narutolovehinata5, as far as I can tell the issues that were brought up have been dealt with and I think the nomination should proceed. What are your thoughts on the matter HLHJ and SpicyMilkBoy? You've both done a huge amount of work on the page. OneUpOnUs (talk) 00:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd be OK with it if others are. More could be added, and really should be once more medical research is completed. There has been discussion of changing the title (which would affect the body text). OneUpOnUs? HLHJ (talk) 02:32, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes I'm on board with a title change, do you think it should be done before the DYK nomination runs its course or better left to afterwards? OneUpOnUs (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Have just messed this up on my own nom, but I think it would be better to resolve the title first. OneUpOnUs, I'm happy to leave you to pick a reasonable title; if you change it, I'm happy to do some of the rewriting. HLHJ (talk) 02:49, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 19[edit]

Riyadh International Book Fair

  • Reviewed: Ocelot
  • Comment: First author created as an AfC, abandoned draft balanced and re-sourced by second author. A book fair which really cannot be called boring. I'm not sure what to use as a hook. Video presentations on how to reverse magic spells? Censorship of a discussion on censorship? Segregated discussion panels? Shouting matches, with accusations of blasphemy and idolatry? A war-themed book fair? Mein Kampf and Protocols of the Elders of Zion (permitted)? Dimples (forbidden)? Dramatic reversals on attitudes to women's driving activists? Women Who Deserve to go to Hell? Opinions welcome.
Please see talk page on the sourcing. HLHJ (talk) 04:35, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Created by Smny2018 (talk) and HLHJ (talk). Nominated by HLHJ (talk) at 04:35, 21 December 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Also, there are numerous maintenance tags on this page that need to be resolved. Give me a ping and I'll be happy to suggest some hooks for you when these are fixed. epicgenius (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
  • epicgenius, I've removed the maintenance tags, mainly by explaining the COIs of some of the sources inline. Independent sourcing is a difficult task for this topic (which is why it languished so long in AfC). HLHJ (talk) 03:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @HLHJ: Looks better. However, there's still a few "better sources" tags. Here are some choices you can come up with (all of which were mentioned in the article):
  • Lots of possibilities to choose from here. You don't have to pick just one. epicgenius (talk) 18:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I'll try to give this a review over the next few days, but tentatively ALT2 is the best hook among the three proposed. With that said, if we are to go with ALT2, we have to be careful with the hook wording and make sure that it doesn't make it look like we are condoning the criticism. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
It's a bit more complex even than that; I'm drafting a section on the political context to make that clearer. The first and ALT2 are part of a political dispute, reported on by interested parties, and ALT1 is a statement by a publisher anxious not to be banned from the fair. The local media carry claims about the size of the fair that are not only strikingly inflated relative to more independent sources, but as not consistent with one another (note that these do not appear in the article). The source for ALT2 is “Riyadh book fair is the most important book fair in the Arab world in terms of sales and attendance. This is not in question,” said Adel Al Hawshan, owner of Tuwa Media and Publishing. “This book fair accounts for at least 70% of our sales, and I know the number is similar to many Arab publishers.” The first is contradicted by independent sources; the second estimate seems a bit high, too, really, considering that more independent sources say that there are a half-dozen or so Arab-world book fairs which have larger attendance than Riyadh, in some cases by a factor of two.[4] Some other sources have publishers speaking off-the-record in fear of losing market access. The COIs here are complex, and the more I look into them, the more complex they get. I'll have another go over the whole article as soon as I have time. HLHJ (talk) 17:07, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @HLHJ and Epicgenius: It's been several weeks since the last comments here. Have the neutrality and COI concerns been addressed yet? The nomination cannot be passed while those are still unresolved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:06, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
    • Narutolovehinata5, I've had a first go at it. It's prolix, poorly-phrased, and probably the balance needs work. Crit welcome. ALT0 would still work if we specified "some" Saudi clerics; opinions and clerics vary. No-one thinks any of the hook topic suggestions I made are good? I grant that some are rather trivial. HLHJ (talk) 04:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
All of them sound like good hooks, I'm more worried about possible neutrality or sourcing issues in this case. For example, with ALT1, it was already mentioned above that some of the sources that discuss the Book Fair might be promotional or puffery. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, Narutolovehinata5 I meant the ones I made in the "comment" of my initial nomination. Here are some newer suggestions:
I will cite any serious contenders. HLHJ (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
ALTs 3, 4, and 6 sound interesting, but I'm really concerned about the neutrality and political nature of these hooks. I'm not really comfortable with these sort of cases so I think it might be a better idea to ask an editor experienced in this area to do the full review, although I'm willing to help review other more technical aspects of the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:51, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
I have to say I also find this an uncomfortable article, Narutolovehinata5, and not what I expected when I adopted an abandoned draft on a book fair. The fair seems about as non-political as a US election... although government-controlled media have stated that it isn't political. The sourcing is difficult. I had gone over the whole article as promised, and removed most of the sources with COIs; the COI sources still used are flagged in-line ("The Saudi Ministry of Culture has announced", I will cite government media for). I also flagged all teh COI sources in teh ref tags, so that other editors would notice. I've just gone over it again, and strengthened the inline flagging of COIs (I may have overdone it, but I want to be clear). The remaining sources all seem to be independent of the fair, and reasonably reliable.
For any willing reviewer: In the hooks above, I asked myself if the message in question was one any of the parties involved wanted to put out; I felt that if it was, it would be more likely to be non-neutral. ALT4 is one that was publicized by a publisher, but clearly wasn't a situation they wanted. The rest involve contradictions between policies. I've tried not to include anything that either the Saudi government or the religious police (major parties to conflict at the fair) would put in a press release. For the next reviewer, on the solidity of sourcing:
  • ALT3 , "shouted down, honoured" is sourced to two notable journalists' blogs (these are seriously among the best independent sources on the fair); one of the journalists is one of those currently in prison. "Honoured" has a photo of an activist under an official sign naming an aisle at the bookfair in her honour. The disappearance of an academic after expressing something which could be construed as support for the women's rights activists (including the journalist currently in prison) is well-documented in the international media; apparently the academic had a post in France. This seemingly inconsistent policy path has more broadly (not with direct reference to the fair) been covered in major international media; activists campaigned for women's right to drive, the government legislated to allow women the right to drive and arrested the activists. It seems to be about discouraging activism on principle.
  • ALT4 , the publisher posted photos and gave interviews; the government confirmed the ban, though not the details of the actions.
  • ALT5 , the US one: sourced to US diplomatic documents and a State Department press conference, as I recall; the latter is only described in The Algemeiner, which I'm not very familiar with; it says that the questions were asked by a named AP journalist, but I haven't been able to find an AP report.
  • ALT6 , sourced to a Committee to Protect Journalists report; they say a journalist got assaulted

I'd really like to get this done. HLHJ (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review of this nomination needed by a new reviewer; review should include neutrality of both hook and article, and address other concerns expressed above. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:47, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment/question: I find this article fascinating: it seems much more deserving than many (I think most) to which attention is drawn via DYK. Back in December, Epicgenius wrote that "there are numerous maintenance tags on this page that need to be resolved". The article still has numerous maintenance tags, but I think that all but one say "(government-controlled domestic media, and thus not an independent source)". I don't understand what "domestic" adds here. (Also, I'd say "medium", but I'll skip the pedantry.) As much of the sourcing for the article isn't from the government-controlled media, and the sourcing that is from these is clearly so labelled, I'm not so concerned by this use of dodgy sources. There's just one other tag that I notice: "(not an independent source)", on just one of the four references to MidEast Posts. A brief explanation would be helpful: "([blah blah blah], and thus not an independent source)". It was HLHJ who added it: any comment, HLHJ? -- Hoary (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Thank you, Hoary! I have been struggling to give enough background that the history isn't just a series of incomprehensible events being enacted for inscrutable reasons, without making the article too long and digressive. Most of the sources on this topic are not independent, but I've found independent sources for most of it, and think I've flagged all the non-independence in the body text, as well as in the references. I have cleared the inline maintenance tags.
There are no domestic media in Saudi Arabia which are not government-controlled (people can vanish over a tweet), so I've removed the redundancy. Saudi Arabia is also currently spending a lot of money on influencing media overseas. As the Saudi government is not stupid, that probably includes a campaign to influence Wikipedia (noticeboard discussion). At the same time, it can be very dangerous for Saudi citizens to edit Wikipedia. I'd be grateful to any editors willing to keep an eye on Saudi-related articles, especially for independent sourcing.
I considered "medium", but decided to plump for comprehensibility, especially as I do in principle favour the regularization of English plurals, for all that "medias" sounds very very odd to me... Face-smile.svg I have explained my flagging of the MidEast Posts source (whose byline seems to indirectly contradict the WP page on the author, but maybe it was outdated). HLHJ (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
"I think it might be a better idea to ask an editor experienced in this area to do the full review" (wrote Narutolovehinata5 above on 30 January). I do too. But none have offered their services. Would you settle for somebody inexperienced and unqualified? -- Hoary (talk) 13:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I would welcome a review from anyone, Hoary, though it looks to me as though you do have experience with difficult and COI-ridden sourcing, so you must mean someone else.Face-smile.svg Sadly, an ideal independent-expert reviewer seems intrinsically unlikely to volunteer. HLHJ (talk) 00:27, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
My experience of the scrupulous use of dodgy sourcing is minimal. My knowledge of Saudi Arabia is minimal. My ability to decipher written Arabic is limited to its numerals (when not too stylized); I don't know a single word. My experience of DYK is limited to two submissions, one evaluation that I screwed up and one that I managed not to, and a minor miscellany of kibitzing. (But the doughty editor of Wikipedia isn't hindered by mere lack of qualifications.) Real Life may hinder. Today's newspaper headlines suggest that Real Death may too. If Narutolovehinata5 wants somebody better qualified, I shall be neither surprised nor offended. But if it's OK with him, I volunteer. -- Hoary (talk) 01:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really comfortable involving myself in any nomination that involves ethnic or religious conflicts, which is the reason why I would have preferred a topic expert or at least someone familiar with the issues to either do the review or at least take a look. I'm open to another editor like Hoary doing it though, if that option is simply not forthcoming. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:11, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the very reasonable comment, Narutolovehinata5. Thinking that an expert review is better than an inexpert one, but that an inexpert one is better than none: One week from now, if (i) nobody better qualified (and there must be many) has stepped up, (ii) nobody has objected, and (iii) I haven't succumbed to the dreaded lurgi, I'll embark on a review. -- Hoary (talk) 22:34, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both. I'm currently doing some more reading and note-taking in an attempt to raise my own expertise; I launched into this with the idea of doing a quick clean-up of a draft article about a book fair, and rather fell down the rabbit hole. I know a tiny bit of Arabic, but not enough to read any Arabic-language sources, so none are cited. I'm pretty sure there are some things that should be changed. If I knew any permanent-self-exiled Saudis, I would ask them, but I don't feel comfortable telling people about this article if it might put them in danger; Saudis who have written material critical of the Saudi government have, recently, gotten 10-15 year sentences under terrorism legislation. Talking to people who once worked in KSA is not as useful as they tend to have been rather cut off from Saudi society. Expertise and inability to edit may go together here, and I do not want to put the slightest pressure on anyone to engage with this content; I would far rather withdraw the nom. As Hoary is the first volunteer in a month of waiting, I'm very grateful for the offer. On the nomination Hoary feels was borked, Hoary just suggested a better hook, which the original nominator also liked better, and thus needed a second reviewer to sign off on the review; perfectly reasonable. I hope Hoary messes up my nomination the same way! HLHJ (talk) 03:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
HLHJ, thank you for your kind comments, and I should say: Let's wait till (a) somebody who knows their stuff comes along, or if nobody does, then (b) for one week. But no, I'd like to make one comment early on: In order to understand Riyadh International Book Fair (RIBF), you really need to understand its context; and if this were, say, a chapter in a book about book fairs, then the ambition and scale (let's ignore the content for now) of the current section "Political context" would be appropriate. But this is an encyclopedia, we don't normally provide bagfuls of context. Rather, we tend to provide quick summaries of what's immediately relevant, using links within the text (or sometimes "Further information:" or similarly introduced links outside the main text) to point people towards resources for a deeper education. However, this article has no link to the article Censorship in Saudi Arabia, and, though I haven't looked for them, there are likely to be other articles that would work similarly for other aspects of what's currently in the "Political context" section of the RIBF article. -- Hoary (talk) 04:27, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 23[edit]

1966 anti-cow slaughter agitation

5x expanded by Winged Blades of Godric (talk). Self-nominated at 14:22, 26 December 2019 (UTC).

  • Please vet this, after a GOCE copy-edit. ∯WBGconverse 14:29, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
This is not a review but that lead is way too long. per WP:LEAD, it should be a summary of the article, not a point by point description of the event. The maximum number of paragraphs is generally four. Another useful link to read: Wikipedia:How to create and manage a good lead section. Cowlibob (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Cowlibob, trimmed. ∯WBGconverse
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg What this needs is a full review by a reviewer, not a response from the nominator. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Winged Blades of Godric This is not a full review but rather a quick check, but the "clarification needed" tags haven't been addressed. In addition, the hook says that the riots were the most violent since "independence", but the article seems to instead specifically say that they were the most violent since the partition riots. Maybe the hook could be clarified to reflect that instead? As I am generally uncomfortable reviewing articles about ethnic conflicts, I'm afraid that I may not be able to give a full review, but I'm willing to give suggestions if necessary. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 26[edit]

Abel Azcona

  • ... that performance artist Abel Azcona's works take his body to the limits and are usually related to social issues? [5] / see citation in article

** ALT1:... that Abel Azcona has been sued by the Catholic Church for his artistic work?

Created by Lolay1983 (talk). Nominated by Paul2520 (talk) at 16:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The ALT1 hook is interesting but the article itself is ineligible, due to not adhering to neutral point of view and lack of sufficient citations in a BLP. I encourage the nom to address the issues in the article and ping me for a re-review. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Lolay1983 and/or John B123, can you take a look at these issues? = paul2520 (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it appears that Lolay hasn't been active since the day of the nomination, so more eyes may be needed in any case. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I'll have a look. John B123 (talk) 20:03, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The original editor has since returned to editing and appears to have made changes to the article. A second look is requested; courtesy ping to K.e.coffman. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg @Paul2520: the page is still not eligible. As of today, there's a new set of tags on the article: 16 Jan version. Please let me know if you plan to do further work on the article. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, K.e.coffman. I can't commit to addressing these issues. I'm not the article creator or expander; I just nominated it as previously it looked like a great new piece.
@Lolay1983, John B123, and Narutolovehinata5: can any of you address the issues? Otherwise, we might have to retract the DYK nom. = paul2520 (talk) 17:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@Paul2520: I've only really been involved in as far as fixing cite and other errors on the page rather than content. Lolay1983 is working hard to improve the article, but another couple of editors seem to be doing their best to frustrate his efforts. John B123 (talk) 18:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@John B123: Yes!!! Thank you for your support. Please help me fix the handicaps!Lolay1983 (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The issues have now been resolved and the tags removed. A further look is requested; courtesy ping to K.e.coffman. John B123 (talk) 19:57, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
@John B123: thank you for the update. I've removed excessive list items; I want to give it a few days before approving to see if these changes stick. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Which source supports the ALT1 hook: "Azcona has been sued by the Catholic Church for his artistic work"? No source is provided together with the hook. Since the source is likely to be in Spanish, I would appreciage a quote + a translation into Eglish, in addition to the link / source. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
@Paul2520: ping the nom, just in case. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:52, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
I'll include the sources and some translation. I hope this helps everyone get a better understanding, if you consider that more sources need to be added to the wiki article, these next ones will help support the information. For the first time in Spain, the Catholic Church, represented by the Archbishopric of Pamplona and Tudela (who represent the Catholic Church in the north of Spain), come up as the whistleblower against Azcona and have had more than five years of trials.
In this source and text the intervewer speaks about the complaint against Abel Azcona, in this one I'll give you the translation:
For the Archbishopric of Pampñona and Tudela, Azcona's intention was to "mock" and "despise" Catholics. The most curious thing is that the ecclesiastical institution explains that "the fact that there have been some cases of pedophilia in the Church cannot justify the imputation of this despicable criminal conduct to those who profess a religion." The Archbishop is trying to downplay "despicable behavior" while recognizing the existence of "some cases", to confuse what was denounced by the artist with an alleged intention to offend every Catholic. The Court denies this argument and defends the artist's freedom of expression: if there is criticism or provocation there can be no derision, offense or befa.
The Archbishopric assures that the fact that there have been some cases of pedophilia in the Church cannot justify the imputation of this conduct.
[6]
In this source and text, they talk about the Church denouncing Azcona as well, I'll give you the translation too:
The Archbishopric of Pamplona-Tudela mobilizes against the exhibition by Abel Azcona
The metropolitan archbishop of Pamplona-Tudela, Francisco Pérez, has convened a mass of 'repair' this Wednesday, at 19 hours, in the cathedrals of Pamplona and Tudela, after the "attack on the faith" that in his opinion is the exhibition by Abel Azcona, which shows the word 'pederasty' with consecrated hosts. Francisco Pérez strongly condemned this action against "religious freedom" and against "all Catholics."
[7]
English news article about the persecution agains Abel Azcona because of his work, as explained in the wiki article there were 3 denouncers after the Catholic Church of Navarra, Christian Lawyers, who are part of the church as well, add up to the denounciation:
[8]
These are two new sources that talk about Abel Azcona in the trials:
[9]
[10]
Official website of the Church of Navarra against Abel Azcona and explaining the denounce:
[11]
If you need anything else, ask me and I'll translate for you. Lolay1983 (talk) 23:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Reviewer's comment: I am uncomfortable approving this article for DYK. The article creator appears to be rather inexperienced, while the nom has not assisted with verifying the hook, nor with addressing issues in the article. For example, the lead of the article currently states:
Azcona's works are exhibited [in] the Leslie-Lohman Museum of Art in New York[1]...
I checked the museum web site, which did not list Azcona in its permanent exhibition, which "are exhibited" generally refers to. It's unclear what else may be inaccurate in the article. I won't be able to continue to review the nom given the on-going issues with the page. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:52, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ SCAN (September 20, 2014). "Someone Else by Abel Azcona in New York". Scan Spanish Contemporary Art Network. Retrieved January 9, 2020.
@K.e.coffman: At the time of the "nom", it seemed to me that the article met the DYK criteria (being new, sufficiently long, well-sourced, reading as neutral, etc.).
I updated the wording of the line you mentioned; the Leslie-Lohman exhibit was clearly in 2014 per [12], so not current.
What are the other on-going issues you mention? If they are easy to address, I can take a look.
@Lolay1983 and John B123: I do want to say, great work -- the article is interesting and well-formatted! I'm very grateful to see the earlier issues addressed. I will request your help with the "on-going issues", but I can help where needed. = paul2520 (talk) 23:07, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
@Paul2520: It's unclear from the text provided above whether the Catholic church has indeed "sued" the artist. It appears that he was tried in a criminal court, prosecuted by the state. If you could look into that and provide a link to the source supporting the hook, that would be great. My general concern is that there may be additional misrepresentations in this BLP. I only checked one cite and found incorrect information. --K.e.coffman (talk) 17:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi K.e.coffman, thanks for clarifying. I see from [13] (linked above) mentions "The Spanish Association of Christian Lawyers has filed a criminal complaint for "desecration" against the artist Abel Azcona" (translated via Google). This is confirmed by the two cites on that line in the article, which I've updated.
I do slightly prefer ALT1, but both are good. However, this alternative is more accurate:
ALT1b:... that Abel Azcona has been sued by the Spanish Association of Christian Lawyers for his artistic work?
Unless you think we should use "The Asociación Española de Abogados Cristianos (Spanish Association of Christian Lawyers)".
Thoughts? = paul2520 (talk) 18:10, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I think it's easier to understand now. Thank you very much for the effort. Lolay1983 (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
K.e.coffman what are your thoughts? Can you approve this, with the updates? = paul2520 (talk) 00:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg K.e.coffman hasn't responded to pings and talk page messages, so a new reviewer may be needed. I have concerns if ALT1b is suitable due to BLP issues; can something else be proposed that doesn't involve him being sued? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew

Articles created/expanded on December 27[edit]

Henry Speller

Moved to mainspace by Bgourgeot (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC).

Review

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Red XN - The nominator has to do a QPQ. The creator's status is not enough.
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg We don't need a citation for every collection and exhibition but something more seems needed, as is a QPQ. ALT1 is the best hook. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. I did a qpq, see above. I hope the creator can help with the sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Gerda Arendt, it has been a month, and the creator has not done anything regarding the sources. Will you be doing something reasonably soon? BlueMoonset (talk) 05:52, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Define soon. Funeral, opera, company, articles of recent deaths, travel - not the normal soon, and sadly after Black history month, but I am willing., just not soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I looked now. For collections, I found a source, with even a few more. Exhibitions: I found this, but - not familiar with the topic - don't know if it's acceptable. To search for every single one would be tedious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 31[edit]

Cartography of Palestine (region)

Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.
Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 2 January 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Most of the comments especially some lengthy ones in each boxes have no sources. You need to add sources for each comment even something as simple as "Copy from 1298" either inline or as a separate notes column. See 1892 Legislative Session of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Also your bibliography from Moscrop 2000 down to Fischer 1940 are not used and are exhibiting the "Harv warning". The bibliography needs to be better organized in alphabetical order by authors. Also the caption of the first paragraph contains a lot of uncited information as well. KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

This fact, cited or not, seems rather unlikely. I mean, what about Strabo's Geographica? It maps a whole series of countries. And the Ancient Egyptians did sophisticated cadastral surveys, and we have a geological map they made in ~1150 BC; I can't imagine that no map of Egypt was ever made. I mean, there was a well-established tourist industry in Herodotus's day, and tourists who had come to see Egypt would presumably have liked to see where they had been. I haven't even started on the quite sophisticated maps often produced by non-literate cultures, which are also underrepresented by history of cartography. Even if, by defining terms really carefully, and ignoring all maps not still preserved, and being a bit Eurocentric, you were able to somehow argue this one, it's an uninformative sort of fact that needs such hard-to-imagine qualifications. The linked article also dramatically contradicts the hook, and its lede contradicts most of its content. HLHJ (talk) 04:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@HLHJ: thanks for this. I could resolve your first set of points by adding the word “known” or “surviving”, but I am quite taken by your second set of points. How about this version which may generate more clicks:
It’s worded ambiguously to keep it impactful, but the point is to refer to Ptolemy’s map. It could also be plural (maps) and refer more broadly to the first ten or so maps, given that, despite a few of the maps not using the word Palestine, all the earliest maps were created during the time of Syria Palestina, Palestina Prima and Jund Filastin (see also Timeline of the name "Palestine"). Onceinawhile (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Onceinawhile. Referring to the Ptolemaian map, or the first few maps, makes sense. I'm OK with hooks that have double meanings, and the hook would certainly hook attention. In the singular "map", ALT1 is not quite cited (something that explicitly said that X was the earliest known map, or the earliest known one of which we have copies), and in the plural, it isn't cited (and the Jerome map does not seem to say "Palestine").
On citability, I think Strabo did map that area earlier, and it seems unlikely that the Romans left no record of any map of the Roman province of Judea. You might make a "first" hook work here, but it's going to be difficult; and"some of the earliest known" or "some early" has less kick. If, once you've got all the information in this article cited, you aren't sure you can support this hook adequately, then I'll be happy read through it and discuss alternate hooks again.
Separately, I think that in order to use ALT1, the article would need a brief discussion of the history of various names for this region (possibly linked to the Timeline of the name "Palestine" you linked, and Timeline of the name "Judea", and perhaps Names of the Levant -- can't see one for "Isreal"), so that people would go away informed, and not determined to complain to someone (incidentally, should the article title use "Levant", given that the scope seems to be the geographic area, not the nomenclature? Do we have a policy on this?).
I don't think it would make sense to use the 1321 map in an accompanying illustration if the hook does not mention it (the mapmaker of the 1321 map also titles it "Terra Sancta", the Holy Land, and in his Latin caption, refers to both "Cesarea Palestine" and the sons of Isreal; he was working in Venice, so this isn't surprising). Of course, this illustration isn't necessary for your proposed ALT1 hook; you could change the picture, or figure the hook is hooky enough already and leave it out. HLHJ (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: thanks for this. I’ll respond on your other points in due course, but on citability of Ptolemy I have: Nebenzahl, Kenneth (1986). Maps of the Holy Land: Images of Terra Sancta Through Two Millennia. Abbeville Press. p. 14. ISBN 978-0-89659-658-0. Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land... his work was to become the model for scientific cartography during the great revivals of mapmaking: the tenth-century Golden Age of Islam and the European Renaissance. The rediscovery of Ptolemy in the fifteenth century was particularly important for maps of the Holy Land; it ended the almost complete domination of mapmaking by Church dogma throughout the Middle Ages... Around AD 150 he produced his Geographia, the earliest known atlas of the world.
Your challenge re Strabo could be expanded to include many of the names in the list of Graeco-Roman geographers pre-Ptolemy, many if whom described the Palestine region in their writings. I would like to add a sentence on this in the article if I can find a source confirming that none of them made maps (or at least no maps that are known to us).
Onceinawhile (talk) 08:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Not in the least denying that Ptolemy was important. Eratosthenes might be a better counterexample than Strabo, he is known to have made maps (including all the world he knew) rather than just inspiring them, and he lived practically next door. Face-smile.svg HLHJ (talk) 04:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: Ptolemy’s primary source, Marinus of Tyre, lived even closer than Erastothenes. And unfortunately none of Erastothenes’ maps survived, nor did any of the maps of the great Ancient Greek cartographers. See: Wilson, Nigel Guy (2006). "Cartography". Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece. Psychology Press. p. 145. ISBN 978-0-415-97334-2. As geographical knowledge improved, various writers recorded what they believed to be the spatial relationships of territories and peoples to each other, and it is from this information that many modern historical atlases present items such as the world according to Hecataeus or Herodotus or Eratosthenes: actual ancient versions of these maps do not survive (indeed, modern versions seem to originate in the 1883 volumes of Bunbury), although there do exist Byzantine versions of Ptolemy’s maps. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: are you ok with me proceeding on this basis? Onceinawhile (talk) 10:35, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really OK with "earliest" or "earliest known". "Earliest surviving" might work if you can source it. "Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land" is not quite that; the phrasing is peacocky rather than factual, and does not make a falsifiable assertion. The article is still short on sourcing, and needs more context (I sometimes find the originals-and-copies history a bit hard to follow). On scope; the Palestine (region) wl article says "The boundaries of the region have changed throughout history", which is a bit lacking as operational definitions go. The scope does not seem to be limited to maps saying "Palestine" or a translation. The article seems to mention whenever a map says "Palestine" or a translation, but it is not mention when other terms are used; I'm not sure what this says about the scope. Clarification on terms would also be good: Palestine? Levant? Israel? Holy Land? What do these terms mean? Do they differ? Why was "Palestine" chosen for the article title? Obviously a full discussion would be out of place,Face-smile.svg but the article should chose an appropriate scope and define it. Some text on the cultural background of some of the mapping would also be good, and on the practical developments (why weren't the Napoleonic cartographers able to survey some areas, for instance? How did the Crusaders use maps? The Ottomans? How were maps used in religious scholarship?). Currently the article is a single-sentence defining the article topic, a list of maps (with some interesting details for some of them), and a short list of lists of maps.
Marinus is impressive, thanks for the link! HLHJ (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: I have a few clarifications on the above while I work through it. I have added an explanation of the scope in the last two sentences in the lede, following the scope used at Cartography of Jerusalem, and have also added a column pointing out the regional names used in the maps. The article name is simply following the usage in the vast majority of maps (and written sources) during the period when these maps were made (c.150AD until c.1880AD). Does that answer your questions?
I agree with many of your other points, and intend to add them over time (I would like to get this to WP:FL). In respect of the WP:DYK nomination, please could you let me know which remaining changes you consider crucial for it to be eligible? Onceinawhile (talk) 00:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg For some reason, the original review failed to note that the article does not meet the minimum of 1500 prose characters required for such an article. Note that text in tables and lists do not count toward the prose total; this article has had 724 prose characters since its initial review on January 4, under half the minimum requirement of 1500 prose characters, and still has that number two months later. Onceinawhile, this is a show-stopper, even beyond the issues raised by HLHJ (for which I'm sorry you weren't pinged), which themselves seem to be significant. Unless you think you can address both of these issues (though perhaps they could be done together), it might be best to withdraw the nomination. Thanks, and sorry for the bad news. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Apologies for not pinging. I did not notice that either. Thanks to BlueMoonset for pointing that out. HLHJ (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks both. I will try to fix this soon. The "sister article" Cartography of Jerusalem is on the front page today. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I have now expanded the article to well over the required prose limit. Thank you for the prompt. I have also incorporated the sources which @HLHJ: and I discussed above, such that the proposed hook is now cited. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I will now work on the rest of the points raised by HLHJ. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 5[edit]

2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election

Created by Kingsif (talk) and Jamez42 (talk). Nominated by Kingsif (talk) at 18:40, 5 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment Although I'm sympathetic of nominating the article to a DYK, but I have to contest the statement. This is not the first time that security forces claim that there are explosive devices near the National Assembly (14 May 2019, 16 May 2019), and this usually has happened on days that are politically sensitive or important. More often than not is the National Guard blocking the access or exit to lawmakers and/or journalists, making parliamentary sessions harder or impossible to start, which is exactly what happened yesterday. At best, this is according to government forces.
There are plenty of interesting things that happened on the election day, so I'm sure that there are many alternate hooks that can be included. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jamez42: Do you have any suggestions, but yes, we could use Guaidó climbing over a fence or something. Always interesting to see that. Kingsif (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Maybe the fact that the vote could not take place at the Legislative Palace, I think this is the first time that it ever happens, at least since the Congress has been unicameral. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Venezuelan National Assembly president Juan Guaidó was blocked from entering the Assembly and tried to climb over a fence in order to vote in the 2020 committee elections?
ALT2: ... that the 2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election could not take place at the Palacio Federal Legislativo, and another vote was held at a newspaper's headquarters?
Added some alts, any opinions? Kingsif (talk) 18:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Attaboy, they look good. Green tickY Support --Jamez42 (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi, I came by to promote ALT1, but there is close paraphrasing in the article:
  • Source: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Article: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Source: Pedro Carreno, told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Article: Pedro Carreño told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Yoninah (talk) 00:31, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hold on, this article has not even been reviewed. Jamez42, your use of the checkmark icon made the bot think that the review was complete. I'm sending this back to WP:DYKN for a full review, pending the elimination of the close paraphrasing. Yoninah (talk) 00:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing resolved. Kingsif (talk) 04:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg By the way, I noticed there was never a proper DYK review (all comments were by the nominators), and this is the first time this is being formally reviewed. epicgenius (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

  • @Epicgenius: I've fixed everything but close paraphrasing, because earwig won't seem to load (again). Kingsif (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 6[edit]

2020 JNU Attack

  • ... that Congress party described the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack as "state-sponsored terrorism", resembling those during the Nazi rule? Source: "Congress describing the rampage by masked goons as an example of "state-sponsored terrorism" reminiscent of Nazi rule." (source link )
    • ALT1:... that Deepika Padukone was subjected to massive criticism by members of the ruling BJP after her visit to stand in solidarity with the victims of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack? Source: "After her visit to JNU, the actor was at the receiving end of immense criticism from members of the ruling BJP including Tajinder Bagga, who urged people to boycott her film." (Source: link [15])
    • ALT2:... that Deepika Padukone's visit to stand in solidarity with the victims of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack was praised for standing up against a crackdown on dissent? Source: "as well as praise for being a rare Bollywood A-lister to stand up against a crackdown on dissent." (Source: [16])
    • ALT3:... that two police cases were filed against a victim of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack? Source: "Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) students' union president Aishe Ghosh was named in two police cases filed in a span of four minutes on Sunday evening, shortly after she was taken to hospital bleeding from a brutal attack by a masked mob." (Source: [17])

Created by DBigXray (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC).

  • @DBigXray: This is not a review but that hook is not acceptable as it is not neutral. We can't use an opposition party statement blaming an incident on a government especially with such inflammatory language as the above. Please consider offering another which has a more neutral point of view. Cowlibob (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I have added 3 Alts. DBigXrayᗙ 14:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including of the ALT hooks. (I have struck the original one per Cowlibob.) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 9[edit]

Bessie Van Vorst

Bessie Van Vorst as "Esther Kelly" wearing the costume of the pickle factory
Bessie Van Vorst as "Esther Kelly" wearing the costume of the pickle factory
  • ... that articles by Bessie Van Vorst (pictured), a pioneer investigative journalist who worked undercover in US factories in the early 1900s, inspired President Theodore Roosevelt to write her a supportive letter?
  • ALT1: ... that articles of Bessie Van Vorst (pictured), a pioneer investigative journalist, inspired President Theodore Roosevelt to write her a letter? Source: "[18]"
  • ALT2: ... that Bessie Van Vorst (pictured) went undercover in the early 1900s to secretly learn about the working conditions at the US factories?
  • ALT3: ... that pioneer undercover journalist Bessie Van Vorst (pictured) worked at several factories to investigate the working conditions.

Created by Less Unless (talk). Self-nominated at 00:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC).

Amanuensis Balkanicus, please take a look. Thank you. Less Unless (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good to go. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 17:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • The hook, at 209 characters, not counting (pictured), was over the maximum limit of 200. I changed "one of the pioneer investigative journalists" to "a pioneer investigative journalist", which brings it down to 199. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Mandarax, thank you for the correction. Less Unless (talk) 15:30, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is really too long. Hooks should be short, intriguing tidbits that will get readers to click on the article. This hook tells me everything I need to know. BTW are the long quotes in the article public-domain? Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, thank you for pointing this out as it's my first nomination and I am grateful for your tips. I have changed the hook, please take a look. As for the quotes - they are direct quotes with source provided which is allowed by the policies. Less Unless (talk) 09:46, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @Less Unless: thank you. Please note that I have restored the thread and renamed your new hook ALT1. We do this so prep builders can follow the discussion.
  • Direct quotes are of course fine, but not too many of them. I think you could paraphrase some of them.
  • Your new hook is rather weak. Especially for an image slot, the hook should be much more punchy. Is there another fact that you could pull from the article? I could suggest something tomorrow. Yoninah (talk) 12:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @Less Unless: the image caption also has nothing to do with the hook. I think you could come up with a great hook that mentions her infiltrating the pickle factory. Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, I've added 2 more hooks based on her factory work. I would very appreciate your help on that. Thank you.Less Unless (talk) 15:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'll suggest something else shortly, but there is serious close paraphrasing from the Notable American Women source that must be rewritten in your own words. You cannot simply copy out of your sources. Here are some examples from that book; I have not checked the other references:
  • Source: Bessie Van Vorst described the difficult working conditions and mean living she had observed and their bad effects on women and young girls.
  • Article: In their book the Van Vorsts described the difficult working conditions and mean living they had observed, and their bad effects on women and young girls.
  • Source: In her chapter "The Meaning of It All" she called for a more humane attitude toward women in general and particularly the young.
  • Article: Bessie called for a more humane attitude towards women in general and particularly the young.
  • Yoninah (talk) 23:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing this out, I have corrected the phrasing. Less Unless (talk) 12:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Less Unless: Sorry, but changing a few words here and there and leaving the rest of the words and the sentence structure intact is not called paraphrasing. You have to read the source, think about what it is saying, and write something else in your own words and style. Yoninah (talk) 19:45, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • I did more editing and wikifying on the article, but left those lines for you to clean up. I added some "citation needed" tags as well. Yoninah (talk) 20:06, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Here is an alt suggestion:
  • ALT4: ... that Bessie Van Vorst (pictured) worked undercover in a pickle factory and other worksites to expose labor conditions for women and children in the early 1900s? Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

More close paraphrasing:

Source: Even after returning to Paris, she continued writing and served as a correspondent for publications operating out of both France and the United States, offering her feelings on a number of social issues.
Article: Even after returning to Paris, Van Vorst continued writing and served as a correspondent for publications out of both France and the United States, writing on a number of social issues.
Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your engagement. I have corrected some wording, added more refs and a bit of curious information. Unfortunately I couldn't find any reliable sources to back the cn-tags. Less Unless (talk) 22:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, I have cleaned up the lingering issues in this nomination. I have removed all the close paraphrasing, added a citation already in the article for her death date (and altered her birthdate to just the year, in keeping with the source), and removed unsourced information. Since I suggested the ALT4 hook, calling on another reviewer to complete this review. Yoninah (talk) 23:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah and Less Unless: I was going to review this but I stopped short because of the separate section on "Criticism". While I understand a CSECTION is not against the "rules", I am of the opinion that separating it always gives criticism undue weight. Is there anyway you could incorporate the section into the "Undercover investigations", or even better to reframe it as a section on "Legacy" or a more NPOV section heading. Legacies can be both positive or negative. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 23:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Also, if you are going to attribute criticism to modern authors, they should be introduced (not just mentioned by surname) and you should mention that they are not contemporaneous which affects due weight. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 23:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
User:Coffeeandcrumbs, I did a bit of cleanup, but it seems like the authors aren't interested anymore? Drmies (talk) 04:08, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
The nominator hasn't edited in a week, so if they can't return, we may either need another editor to address the issues, or mark this for closure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:23, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry I disappeared, was out of reach for some time. I'll take a look later this evening and try to address all the notices you mentioned. Thank you for your involvement!Less Unless (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Coffeeandcrumbs I have moved the Criticism part to the "Undercover investigations", however after I looked at the article your way, it seems to me that there's something off. Can you please take a look. Less Unless (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]

Callaghan MacCarty, 3rd Earl of Clancarty

  • ... that Callaghan MacCarty left his life as a Catholic monk in France and converted to Protestantism to become the third Earl of Clancarty? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ...", Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 9: "... he d. 'out of the communion of the Church of England.'"
    • ALT1:... that Callaghan MacCarty converted from Catholicism to Protestantism in order to become Earl of Clancarty, but died a Catholic? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ...", Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 9: "... he d. 'out of the communion of the Church of England.'"
    • ALT2:... that Callaghan MacCarty left his life as a Catholic monk in France to become the third Earl of Clancarty? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ..."
  • Reviewed: As I have less than 5 DYK's, I am opting not to review.

Converted from a redirect by Johannes Schade (talk). Nominated by CaptainEek (talk) at 00:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Review in progress. ミラP 17:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Although this was converted into a redirect the day before nom, has 3673 b of prose, and there are hooks interesting, the hooks barely fail WP:POSA and, most importantly, article has sourcing gaps and I'm not sure if the timeline is encyclopedic. Can somebody help CaptainEek and Johannes Schade fix them? ミラP 18:04, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • ??? You mean from a redirect, surely. What WP:POSA issues do you see? The (hidden) timeline looks fine to me, & isn't really a DYK issue. Sourcing seems ok for DYK. Johnbod (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Sorry, forgot to respond. Original hook looks fine. But everything in timeline needs sources or you can remove the timeline altogether. ミラP 14:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not doing anything - just drive-by comments. But these don't sound like DYK issues to me. After 6 weeks I think a new reviewer might be a good idea. Johnbod (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Fine. I'll leave this to another reviewer. ミラP 15:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg see above. Johnbod (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I unfortunately do not have time to do a full review right now, but I think the original hook sounds interesting and does provide some astonishment. It's not that common for Catholic monks to convert to another religion right? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Right you are, especially not in the 1600s, let alone converting back again at the end of their life. Very unusual. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 00:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 17[edit]

Cheung Chung-kiu

2-8a Rutland Gate, London
2-8a Rutland Gate, London
  • ... that Cheung Chung-kiu has agreed to buy 2–8a Rutland Gate (pictured), London, for more than £200 million, easily the most expensive house sold in the UK? Source: "A Chinese property tycoon has agreed to buy a 45-room mansion overlooking Hyde Park in London for more than £200m, making it by far the most expensive house to be sold in the UK. Cheung Chung-kiu..." ([19])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 23:38, 24 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, not very detailed but long enough for DYK, neutral, and fully referenced. Hook is interesting and supported by cited source. Image is freely licensed. No copyvio found. Awaiting QPQ. -Zanhe (talk) 09:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
@Edwardx: A QPQ is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There have been multiple pings for a QPQ review to be supplied, including on Edwardx's talk page, and it still has not been supplied nor has there been any response here or there. If the weekend ends without a QPQ being completed or a post here from Edwardx requesting an extension, the nomination will regretfully be marked for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:59, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset and Edwardx: Would it be okay for me to donate a QPQ in Edward's stead if he's still unable to respond? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Donations of QPQs are always acceptable. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Pending a QPQ from Edward, I will be donating my review of Template:Did you know nominations/Doodlebug (film). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: Is my QPQ donation okay, or should we still wait for a response from Edward? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:12, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, I don't know whether Edwardx is unable to respond or just not interested. A few minutes ago I posted to his talk page on my disappointment at the failure to participate here. However, as I said, if you want to donate a QPQ, you're certainly welcome to do so, and when it's officially done (not quite sure why you said "will be donating" rather than "have donated") this should be ready to go per Zanhe's original review. But it needs to be officially done by you, and I think you should supply to tick to indicate it has been done. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:49, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
I normally only donate QPQs if a QPQ is the only thing preventing a nomination from being approved, and even then only if other editors or I have tried contacting the nominator first. I also said "will be" because I'm still hoping that Edward will be able to respond and give his QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:45, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, thank you for your kindness. I have now, very belatedly, done a QPQ. My apologies. Edwardx (talk) 00:27, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg As Edward has provided a QPQ and there are no longer any outstanding issues, this should now be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I don't think the hook as currently written is acceptable. When a property is sold in the UK, the buyer agrees to buy it "subject to contract". Agreements to buy often fall through before exchange of contracts, or a different price may be negotiated, so I think the hook needs "it is reported that" or some such modifier. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Cwmhiraeth I would hope that our readers could infer that the sale is not a done deal. As for a different price, it would have to be a lot less than £200m for it not to become the UK's most expensive. Perhaps we could replace "is buying" with "has agreed to buy", which is the language used in the source. Edwardx (talk) 14:29, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
@Edwardx: True. I would not object to "has agreed to buy". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Cwmhiraeth, hook tweaked as discussed. Zanhe, as the reviewer, could you please confirm that you are happy with the revised hook? Edwardx (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]

Republic of Philippines v. Pimentel

Created by Psiĥedelisto (talk). Self-nominated at 02:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC).

  • This Indian litigation started in 1878 and was ongoing in 2013; the slow pace of litigation in India is very well known around the world so I'm not convinced people will be excited by the "twenty years" in the hooks. Is there a more human angle to the story? --kingboyk (talk) 08:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (1) The Philippines is not India. (2) This case has primarily taken so long in American courts. (3) The distribution of funds to elderly victims of martial law in the Philippines is not human? Psiĥedelisto (talk) 09:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I'll be frank, since you asked, but this is just my opinion, I may well be in a minority of one, and I mean no offence:
(1) Am aware, have visited both countries.
(2) Wikipedia is global. Your hooks are fixated on "20 years of litigation" and I'm saying that does not give them (to me) any "wow" factor. Hooks should be "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article". These hooks don't draw me in.
(3) I've no idea about the human story from reading your article. The article only uses the word "human" 4 times and "victim" 4 times, and that's including the footnotes. It tells me nothing about the plight of the victims at all, nor what the crimes were (that word is used once; "elderly" does not appear at all). You have a Background section, why not put a few details about the crimes and the victims in there? Also, was there no reaction to the payout from victim groups? As it stands, the article is a good but dry report of a legal case; I don't see it fascinating the average reader. The fascinating "human angle" material is in the linked article People Power Revolution, which is not new. --kingboyk (talk) 10:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I added a link to Human rights abuses of the Marcos dictatorship to the hook without it. The article I wrote is about the litigation. Could any litigation interest you? I think the litigation is very interesting and shows that even American courts can be very slow, and it's also interesting that a SCOTUS decision didn't settle the matter, which most people think always happens. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 13:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including a second opinion on whether the hooks are sufficiently interesting. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:34, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol question.svg I agree that neither hook will be interesting to a broad audience. ALT2 is also too long. The article also has several aparagraphs without citations. A full review is still needed along with new hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 03:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg, reiterating my above comment that a full review is still needed. Flibirigit (talk) 02:06, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 27[edit]

Charles Montier

  • Comment: 15 million Ford Model Ts were manufactured, starting in 1908 - a mass produced car, for the masses. Henry Ford said "I will build a motor car for the great multitude... it will be so low in price that no man making a good salary will be unable to own one – and enjoy with his family the blessing of hours of pleasure in God's great open spaces". Charles Montier certainly enjoyed his Model T - by racing it in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, alongside Bentleys and Bugattis. He and his co-driver finished 14th of 37 entrants.
  • Comment: Other hook suggestions welcome!

Created by Kingboyk (talk). Self-nominated at 08:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC).

--kingboyk (talk) 02:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

  • I think the hook needs something like 'raced a modified version of the popular/high-selling/mass produced etc.' Just to make it clear that the Model T wasn't an expected car to be raced at Le Mans. I know a little about cars so I got it, but if you didn't know what a Model T was it leaves the hook a little lacking? What do you think?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 13:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
  • OK, I've done two things: 1) Added some info about the Model T to the article, including an extract from the Henry Ford quote I included in my comment above; 2) Added hook suggestion ALT3 here. I think The Flying Spaghetti Monster is absolutely right and if this submission is accepted we should go with ALT3 or a rewording thereof. I'm unsure of protocol so I've left the original hook suggestions in place rather than removed or striked (sp.?) them. Thank you again, The Flying Spaghetti Monster. --kingboyk (talk) 02:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Great, those changes look good and make the hook interesting enough for me. However, the article has three red links which, if I remember correctly, are not allowed on DyK pages. So if you could either create them, or if not notable enough just remove the link, then I'm happy to say this is ready from my point of view. (Although I should imagine you'll need another editor to give their opinion too as I'm fairly new to this). Update: I was wrong - it's just the hook that can't have redlinks. Although the article would be better without them anyway as standard I reckon. The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 12:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
  • ​ Thanks. Montier's son Ferdinand is red-linked per WP:REDLINK as I believe he meets WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT and the infobox I have used has an entry for "notable relatives". He has other incoming links not added by me. I might yet knock up a short article on him to turn the link blue, although as he mostly entered the same races as his father (and without any great success) it might not be a terribly interesting article. It would be no great loss to remove the link if necessary and I await further guidance on that.
There are also some red links to non-championship Grand Prix races. These articles all have only one other incoming link, from their respective season's pages e.g. 1931 Casablanca Grand Prix is linked to from 1931 Grand Prix season but nowhere else in mainspace (not even from the article on the driver who won the race). I'm puzzled by this and it makes me wonder whether these non-Championship race report red links should be removed not just from Montier's article but from the season articles too... On the other hand I believe the races likely have enough sources and notability to be written about (whilst being far from certain it will ever happen) and I feel compelled by WP:REDLINK to link to them. I think I might have a solution, however: I could redirect these red links to their respective season reports and template them with Template:R with possibilities.
I'll attend to this asap; I have a few last minute additions to make first due to finding some additional sources after I thought the article was done! --kingboyk (talk) 04:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm all done and ready for review, except for the article on Ferdinand Montier which is in my sandbox and probably won't be completed until tomorrow. The reviewer can safely assume that link will turn blue shortly.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster are you intending to review this submission or were you just commenting? --kingboyk (talk) 15:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Just commenting my dude, got to re-familiarise myself with the criteria before I review. Good work on the red links and the new hook though - looks ready to me but will need a second opinion I think. The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 13:41, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed by new reviewer, as one who had said they would has not returned in over three weeks. (Note: while red links are not allowed in a DYK hook, there are no rules forbidding them in the nominated article.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:52, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Just a quick comment, but I wonder if something else could be said about the Model T here. AFAIK mass-produced cars racing in Le Mans was not exactly uncommon during parts of its history (maybe someone more knowledgeable about Le Mans could correct me on this). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:14, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't know (I'm a Formula 1 guy) but I don't see it as relevant. Montier raced the first mass-produced car, widely considered to be a farmers workhorse, in the first running of what is now the most prestigious endurance race in the world. That's the story. I think ALT3 conveys that. I am of course open to alternative hook suggestions. --kingboyk (talk) 01:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29[edit]

Gösta Neuwirth

  • Reviewed: XHCPBS-FM
  • Comment: the reason would be interesting but hard to word, at least for me

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and the article is neutral. I detected no copyvios, the sources being mostly in German. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There's a lack of clarity surrounding the dissertation topics that leads me to doubt that this hook is strictly accurate. Was it the rejection of Neuwirth's original dissertation topic of Webern that led to his leaving the Vienna doctoral program? Or was the topic rejection effectively a dismissal from the program? Clearly if the rejection was anti-semitic, then Schreker would have been a non-starter as an alternate dissertation topic, as Schreker was Jewish, unlike Webern, so it seems unlikely that the Schreker topic was even on the table prior to his move. The timeline appears to be University in Vienna doctoral program, rejection, move to Graz to be a journalist for a short while, then move to Berlin to get a doctorate. (That's the degruyter source, which mentions Webern by name but not "anti-Semitism" that I can see, but that source is not translatable so I could easily have missed it; the SWR Donaueschinger source says it was the University of Graz and uses "antisemitischen" but not Webern.) The hook implies that something about the Schreker dissertation, once settled on, needed to be written in Berlin rather than Vienna, and there doesn't seem to be anything in the article supporting that implication or that Schreker was even thought of prior to his arrival in Berlin. I've struck the original hook; the anti-Semitism with Webern would make an interesting hook. The article mentions that Erich Schenk did the topic rejection, but I don't see that in the degruyter source, so he certainly can't be used in any new hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:16, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
I rewrote the section in more chronological order, dropping the prof's name (although it's in de_WP) and the antisemitism (too vaguely sourced, - "Graz University" probably an error.) - If someone want s to return any of these, for a more hooky hook, please with better sources.
ALT1: ... that Gösta Neuwirth studied composition and musicology in Vienna, but wrote his dissertation on harmony in Schreker's opera Der ferne Klang in Berlin? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 30[edit]

Scale insect

Formica fusca ants tending a herd of mealybugs
Formica fusca ants tending a herd of mealybugs
  • ... that many scale insects are immobile as adults, their dispersal sometimes being assisted by ants or the wind?
    • ALT1:... that some scale insects have a mutualistic relationship with ants?
    • ALT2:... that scale insects cause billions of dollars' worth of damage to crops?
    • ALT3:... that scale insects are the original source of both "crimson" and "scarlet"?

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 10:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Substantial GA, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, but I don't see much on it that size. I like ALT3 best, but don't exactly get what "source" means here, and can't read beyond three dots in the Scarlet source, so don't see any mentioning of kermes, nor insects. Please help me to understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
The article explains that both the red colour-names crimson and scarlet are related to kermes products, which are made from the tubes created by scale insects. As the article states (with citations) "Crimson" is by etymology cognate with the dyestuff "kermes", both from Arabic qirmizī (for the colour and the insect), while scarlet is from the Arabic word siklāt for luxury silks dyed with kermes. All these things are reliably cited in the article. Hope this helps. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, not quite. No problem with "crimson", but I see the ref for "scarlet" (#23) only until "quę vulgo rasilis …", and until there, see no reference to any insects, nor to kermes. You can tell me that it comes later, and I'll believe you, or explain what I misunderstand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, it's later in that ref. You will also find the same thing in Netherton, Robin; Owen-Crocker, Gale R. (2008). Medieval Clothing and Textiles. Boydell & Brewer. p. 22. ISBN 978-1-84383-366-6. Munro believes that the morphology of siklātun had an influence on the formation of the word "scarlet" in the European languages in question, and also that the extremely expensive dyestuffs used in the Arab silks mentioned above constituted the bridging element in the association between scarlet cloth and scarlet colour. Muslim spain was not only a major centre (though far from being the only one) for the production of siklātun, but also a major source of kermes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: If, like me, you think this connection a bit scholarly, you can always opt for another hook. I like the ants herding the mealybugs, personally. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:39, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Fine, can you please word that? Because "mutualistic relationship" is not the same ;) - mutual? - ... but "herded" and "mealybugs are much "catchier"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Susan Sweney

Susan Sweney
Susan Sweney
  • ... that fascist broadcaster Susan Sweney (pictured) was "many times drowned"?
  • ALT1:... that British fascist in Germany, Susan Sweney, (pictured) was suspected by the Gestapo of spying for the Allies?
  • ALT2:... that Second World War fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was jailed by both the Germans and the British?
  • ALT3:... that after Susan Sweney (pictured) was shipwrecked during the Second World War, she cursed the crew who rescued her so much that they nicknamed her "the devil's roast"?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, well-cited (though some require a subscription). QPQ provided as well, no copyvio issues. I say ALT2 is the most interesting hook, but I'd word it as "... that World War II fascist Susan Sweney was jailed by both the Germans and the British?" ALT3 is sufficient as well. Only holding back approval due to your comment; is your "tidying" done? Let me know what you think through a ping. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 14:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I still have some to add and I hope to source a better version of the picture in a few days. I have added "both". Incidentally, she was shipwrecked by them both too which must make her unique as being shipwrecked and jailed by both sides. I haven't yet thought of a good way of putting that in a hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Philafrenzy, it's been over a month since this was nominated, which is lots of time for tidying. Any idea how soon this will be ready? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2[edit]

Morgenstern der finstern Nacht

  • Reviewed: Lou Lefaive
  • Comment: literally even "laughed"

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC).

Thank you for pointing that out. I don't like the phrase German-language, sorry. Could we say "in German"? We would not have the same question in Spanish. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Gerda Arendt: Hi, I came by to promote this, but I have a question about the translation. Isn't lacht "laughed"? The source also talks about the star "shining" at the night. Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
  • The translation of "lachen" is "laugh", but it's "anlachen", - the way even a baby can communicate in a friendly way before speaking, - help welcome. The translation of "sprechen" is "speak", but the translation of "ansprechen" is "address" or "contact". My translation program is of little help. Anybody? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Leonard G. Montefiore

  • Reviewed: Huer's Hut
  • Comment: This was topical recently because of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Der Keks (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 00:00, 10 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - ?
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Needs citation for paragraph starting "In 1924". I'm also concerned by the hook; I'm not sure that it's adequately supported by the article. According to the article he was involved in the Windermere children but this was after the Holocaust and therefore it may be misleading to state that the children were "saved". Furthermore these children had a variety of nationalities and were not just "German Jews".

It appears the nominator was not notified of this on their talk page, so I left a message for them there. — Maile (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC) buidhe 18:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Monsters (James Blunt song)

James Blunt
James Blunt
  • ... that James Blunt (pictured) wrote "Monsters" to express his feelings about his father and his illness?

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 10:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that QPQ has been supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:54, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Talk about a day late and a dollar short Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:29, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, but the QPQ does not make the grade: the article in question was nominated in time, and there has never been any requirement at DYK that the nominator get the category (Created vs. moved to mainspace) correct, just that it's a valid nomination. When CAPTAIN MEDUSA completes the QPQ, then this can be approved, but not before. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Follow-up: since the originally submitted QPQ has since been reviewed by another editor, a different QPQ will need to be submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:23, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 3[edit]

The Right Side of History

Created by TheEpicGhosty (talk). Self-nominated at 01:12, 6 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written. As Earwig's is down, unable to check for close paraphrasing. I have struck the first hook for saying nothing about what the book is about. ALT1 is better, but I would suggest condensing it this way:
  • ALT1a: ... that conservative journalist Ben Shapiro was inspired to write The Right Side of History after his speech at the University of Southern California turned into a violent confrontation between attendees and protestors?
  • Per DYK rules, the hook fact must be cited inline at the end of the sentence in which the fact appears. You seem to be saying in the article that there was more than one inspiration for the book, but if the protest was one of the inspirations, that needs to be clearly stated and cited in the article if you wish to use it as your hook fact.
  • Image is fair-use. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Apparently the nominator has not edited since February 20. If someone else wants to fix up this nomination, we can proceed; otherwise will have to close as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

17 Million Fuck Offs

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 18:56, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg At first glance, there's a lot of issues with the quality of the article. I went ahead and fixed the infobox, however a lot of information is mixed together under one subsection. I would suggest splitting the article into three – "Release and promotion", "Commercial performance", and "Live performances" – based on what's already present. Also try adding the single's cover art and check for dead links. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 19:38, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Nice4What: I disagree. I think that with the content that there is there isn't really enough to justify splitting into 3 separate sections. There isn't enough on the promotion side (at least for the first release) to justify a separate section and the live performances would only cover the Brexit Day performance as I can't find anything about him performing it live elsewhere. That's why I thought it better to split it simply into the original release and background and the more covered re-release. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Requesting an actual review, as I was just leaving a comment on the article's quality. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 14:59, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Crikey! Do you really think that "fuck" is suitable for homepage exposure? The article gives the obvious alternative as "f**k"; that's much more appropriate IMHO. Schwede66 18:35, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1:... that the British told the European Union to f**k off 17 million times?
    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg WP:NOTCENSORED and that is the proper name of the article. Plus we have already featured hooks with "fuck" in them several times in the past. So no thank you, we'll stick with the original. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Regardless on what hook wording is to be used, Nice4What's concerns about the article's formatting still needs to be addressed. The nomination may not be approved if there are still several issues that remain outstanding. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:08, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The hook is semantically incorrect or at worst blatantly untrue. 17 million British people may have told the EU to fuck off (debatable), but the British did NOT tell the EU to fuck off 17 million times. For the hook to be true, either the British government or every person in the country has literally told the EU to fuck off, 17 million times. Furthermore, the hook is only vaguely related to the actual contents of the article which is about a song. If facts are to go out of the window and the hook is to be considered simply as a joke: I don't find it very funny. --kingboyk (talk) 06:16, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
    • OK, we can reword it so it's more like the song (referencing the chorus @Kingboyk: and in keeping with the special April Fools day rules):
      • ALT1: ... that some British people sang to the European Union to fuck off, 17 million fuck offs? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
      • Just throwing out another idea: Perhaps my concerns could be addressed, without a major refactoring and without losing the attempt at humour, by changing to something like "that 17 million British people told the European Union to fuck off?" --kingboyk (talk) 19:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Though it's quite hard to write a reasonable hook for this one, how about Kingsif (talk) 18:20, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2:... that one Briton gave the EU 17 million fuck offs nine months early?

Alfredo Hueck

  • ... that Venezuelan film editor and director Alfredo Hueck became interested in the industry after his older brother made him learn to plug in a Betamax? Source: this interview (Spanish)

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I could probably assume good faith for the Spanish-language sources, but generally the article reads like promotional material riddled with peacocky language instead of an encyclopedic entry. The sources I can read seem problematic too, e.g. this entry is not significant coverage of Hueck by any means -- he is merely listed as editor, so it would be as good as simply linking to the movie's IMDb page... Other links like the indiegogo and vimeo ones similarly do not establish notability. I would recommend that we do away with such links Cheers Kingoflettuce (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Really? I wrote it as a career overview, one that I thought was a bit weak but good for DYK. Not all sources need to have sigcov nor establish notability, you've just cherrypicked. There's no reason why his main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable. Those sources you want to get rid of are sourcing things, would you rather it have ref tags? Hollywood Reporter is more RS than IMDb, you know.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Someone following DYK criteria to review, please. Kingsif (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Afraid you are very much misunderstanding/mischaracterising whatever I have said, Kingsif. I never once said that the "main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable"; in fact, I was willing to assume good faith! Your Hollywood Reporter "citation" is pointless and doesn't establish an iota of notability. Anybody who understands notability guidelines will agree... As for the stuff I can read and fully understand, I maintain that there is still far too much fluff for this to run. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 4[edit]

Dick Johnson Is Dead

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 14:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

  • The article also needs a copyedit, starting with the first line. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • OK, I have copyedited the article for you, and also added more information from the sources. I think you can do more with the hook, like:
  • ALT1: ... that in Dick Johnson Is Dead, director Kirsten Johnson has her elderly father enact all the different ways—many of them violent—that he could die? Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, forgive my interruption, but the submitted QPQ is not a complete review, and this nomination should not be approved until all of the DYK criteria have been addressed in that review, not just the hook. (The article there has a number of bare URLs, so that's something that will need to be fixed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 22:28, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: thank you for the notice. I'm actually trying to work out the hook with the nominator, and since I worked on both the article and hook, will then give it over to someone else to review. Yoninah (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 10[edit]

Pompton Junction station

  • ... that a wild shootout broke out at Pompton Junction station in New Jersey over $600 worth of stolen metal and clothing? Citation 11: the NYDH article
    • ALT1:... that an officer was nearly killed in a wild shootout at Pompton Junction station with metal and clothing thieves? Citation 11: the NYDH article

Created by Mitchazenia (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - yes
    • Cited in the same paragraph. However, it needs to be repeated at the end of the sentence as well. WP:DYK#Cited hook says the cite must appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient.
  • Interesting: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - yes

  • (You have 6 DYK nominations already, so a QPQ is needed)

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg epicgenius (talk) 17:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

6? I have 52 DYKs. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 04:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@Mitchazenia: The DYK tool only counts 6, though older DYK nominations are not counted. In any case, because you have more than 5 DYKs, a QPQ needs to be done before this can be approved. epicgenius (talk) 15:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Already did it. Still think this is stupid. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 17:48, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I assume that your QPQ is Template:Did you know nominations/Passage of Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Symbol confirmed.svg Since you have done that, and added the citation, looks like this is good to go. epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Mitchazenia, the quid pro quo review needs to be a complete review of both article and hook(s): newness, size, neutral, adequately sourced, and free from close paraphrasing/copyvio. For example, the "contrary to public opinion" hook claim is unsourced, so the hook cannot pass unless it is. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Done, but goes without saying I won't be nominating a DYK for a while. QPQ is a bit silly. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 06:11, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 12[edit]

Zachariah A. Rice

  • ... that Zachariah A. Rice left his successful Atlanta businesses for the adventure of gold and quartz mining during the California Gold Rush? Source: [1][2]
    • ALT1:... that during the American Civil War, Zachariah A. Rice wrote more than 63 letters to his wife, offering insight into military life of a Confederate cavalry officer? Source: [1][2]

Created by Gulbenk (talk). Self-nominated at 20:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Since this hasn't been picked up by anyone in the month since it was nominated, I'll be reviewing this, hopefully by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:47, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. No close paraphrasing was found. Nominator has no previous DYK nominations so no QPQ is required QPQ check did not find any prior nominations, but the nominator's talk page suggests that they have more than five nominations, meaning that a QPQ is needed. ALT1 is the better hook, but the hook fact is not in the article itself, but rather is only mentioned in a reference: the hook fact must be mentioned in the article too. In addition, the article creator is actually Clifflandis; as such, they need to be credited here as well. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the review and input. I have added text which aligns with the hook (and is supported by the reference). A glaring oversight on my part. Will perform QPQ in the next day or so. Absolutely wish to acknowledge and credit the contribution of Clifflandis but not quite sure how to go about that.Gulbenk (talk) 05:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
No worries, I've just added them with a DYKmake template, that way they'll be given a DYK credit too once this is promoted and featured on the Main Page. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b Stephen Davis; William A. Richards (Spring 1992). "An Atlantan Goes to War: The Civil War Letters of Maj. Zachariah A. Rice, CSA". Atlanta History Center. Retrieved February 11, 2020.
  2. ^ a b Wallace Putnam Reed (1889). History of Atlanta, Georgia: With Illustrations and Biographical Sketches of Some of Its Prominent Men and Pioneers. D. Mason & Company. pp. 131–134.

Early Swallows

  • ... that the 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows was the first Ukrainian TV show that portrayed teen LGBT identity?
    • ALT1:... that 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows has been praised for making issues that are rarely dealt with in Ukraine in public debatable?
    • ALT2:... that 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows was responsible for a 600% increase calls to a helpline?

Source: Ukraine's teen bullying drama that shattered taboos and stirred a nation, BBC News (12 February 2020)

Created by Yulia Romero (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg ALT0 and ALT2 are really good hooks. However, right now the article is just over 1300 characters long, which is below the 1500 character requirement for DYK. The nomination cannot move forward until the article is expanded further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I just extended the article with (among others) a source found on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Hope it is long enough now, otherwise I am afraid it has to be extended with fluffy information.... Glad to hear that others find the TV show an interesting subject. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 01:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I have expanded the article even more since 13 February 2020 Face-smile.svg — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late reply, but the article looks a lot better now. However, I'd still suggest that it be given a copyedit to make it read better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC))

Passage of Martin Luther King Jr. Day

  • ... that contrary to public opinion Illinois wasn't the first state to recognize Martin Luther King Jr. Day as Connecticut recognized a holiday in his honor on June 14, 1973 although it fell on a Sunday? [1]

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:11, 12 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Looks good to me, but the second half seems a tad long on the hook. I can understand if you don't want to remove it. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 04:37, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Yeah it seems long to me and I have been working on making it shorter, but I think it needs the Sunday not Monday part since there might be some "achsualy" people. I am going to try and shorten it again so tell me if it is better. - Jon698 (talk) 4:50, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • My question is on the Sunday part. There's something bothering me on the way it's written both ways. "although it fell on a Sunday" will pique interest, but it just reads awkwardly.Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 06:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Since it's been alerted to me that I have to sign off on all of it, there is also apparently no source for the public opinion. Length is quite clearly fine, sourcing is insanely fine for a new article (makes me jealous, as I have some 400+ citation articles in sandboxes), and it was new on the 30th of January. That may be an issue. I would probably think it would help both my original complaint and my current one to remove the contrary to public opinion. Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 06:11, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

  • @Mitchazenia: Yeah I agree. How does this sound? "that Illinois wasn't the first state to recognize Martin Luther King Jr. Day as Connecticut recognized a holiday in his honor on June 14, 1973 although it fell on a Sunday?" - Jon698 (talk) 2:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Meskill Signs King Day Bill". The Bridgeport Post. June 15, 1973. p. 9. Archived from the original on January 23, 2020 – via Newspapers.com.

Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]

Hiyori Nitta

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Per MOS:EGG I think "voice actress" should just link to voice actress. And, at the risk of opening a can of worms, perhaps consider replacing "actress" with "actor" per MOS:GNL. WanderingWanda (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Alternatively, we can just not have any of the links, other than the bolded link and the series link. This might not be ideal though. epicgenius (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment: This is the second time we've had Pretty Cure on DYK, let alone this month; the first one is here. ミラP 03:01, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 14[edit]

Salgo v. Leland Stanford Jr. University Board of Trustees

  • Comment: I'm launching this for the student and instructor to help ease them through the process, this should count as one of their grace nominations.

Created by Aliylo (talk). Nominated by Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) at 20:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article was new enough to mainspace when nominated and is easily long enough (~9,000 characters) and otherwise eligible. The article's claims are supported by suitable citations; I'll assume good faith with regard to the paywalled sources, which are substantially supported by the ones I can access. An additional citation is needed. The content is presented in an appropriately neutral fashion, without e.g. taking one litigant's side. I don't see any signs of plagiarism from online sources; the high-scoring hits on the Earwig tool are all matches on the names of cases and institutions and other stock phrases not easily paraphrased. The hooks are both supported by citations, and ALT1 is the more interesting.

A good guideline is to try to include some sort of citation for each paragraph of text, so the article needs to make clear the source for the second paragraph of "History". Wikipedia style frowns on including external links in the prose body of an article (except in citations), so you can just cut the sentence in "Hospital Visit/ Procedure" that reads "More details of the procedure can be found here."

This is close to meeting the standard! A little work and it should be able to run at DYK. Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Ski-BASE jumping

  • ... that the ski-BASE jump in the opening scene of the Bond film The Spy Who Loved Me was filmed only once due to weather and technical restrictions? Source: Telegraph

Moved to mainspace by Snakey123 (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 09:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Not that hooky. Lots of dramatic movie stunts are only filmed once. If I may be so bold, how about (alt 1) "... that ski-BASE jumping pioneer Shane McConkey died when he couldn't release his skis before deploying his chute?" Morbid, but quite dramatic, and goes along with the "dangerous sport" line in the article lead. Or some other; I'm not bound to this one, and the article is full of dramatic facts. For example, if you're set on the Bond movie, how about (alt 2) "... that the first ski-BASE jump was performed only four years before one was used in the opening scene in The Spy Who Loved Me?"
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Repeated uses of the same reference should be combined; see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations. GRuban (talk) 16:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

GRuban, it's not me you should be contacting, it's @Snakey123:. I just nominated it for him as he asked me to. Personally I think the original hook is fine as the Bond element will bring people in. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I contacted you both just in case, and suggested an alternative Bond hook, that will hopefully bring in even more people. Face-smile.svg. --GRuban (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]

Newyorkitis

Created by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 19:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg — Article was created during the last seven days and contains a sufficient prose length. It is well-sourced throughout with proper citations, neutral, and has no apparent copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, short enough, neutral/accurate, and backed by a source. QPQ has been done. This one is good to go. Aria1561 (talk) 02:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg We need an expert like EEng to make something better out of this hook. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
    ALT1 ... that John H. Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity caused nervousness in urban dwellers?
    EEng 00:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Works for me---maybe adding the date for clarity. "that in 1901, John H..." etc . Thanks. Coretheapple (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Wanted to, but it's already just a few characters short of the 200-byte limit. EEng 18:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
OK, just for you I've made the effort:
ALT1a ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity induced nervousness in urbanites?
(199 chars) EEng 19:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Outstanding! Coretheapple (talk) 19:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, EEng, but I was hoping for something snappier for the quirky slot. Like:
  • ALT2: ... that the symptoms of Newyorkitis include "haste, rudeness, arrogance, pursuit of novelty and of grandeur, and pretensions of omniscience"?
  • ALT3: ... that according to prominent New York surgeon John Girdner, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
  • ALT4: ... that in 1908, treatment for the symptoms of Newyorkitis was being offered at a New York YMCA?
  • Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Well I certainly won't be offended if any of those is selected over mine. But I always get a kick out of reminding people of outmoded social ideas such as that women thinking causes trouble. EEng 21:59, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

* Alt 3 describes "Newyorkitis" best, but I would add a reference to 1901. Coretheapple (talk) 15:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Since parentheses are frowned on in DYK hooks (see WP:DYKSG#C9), I'm proposing a variant combining ALT1a hook with ALT2 (ALT5) to stay focused on Girdner's book, and an ALT3a to address Coretheapple's issue:
  • ALT3a: ... that according to John Girdner, a prominent New York surgeon in 1901, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
  • ALT5: ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness, caused by omnipresent buildings, as one symptom of Newyorkitis, with others being "haste, rudeness, arrogance" and "pretensions of omniscience"?
ALT5 is 199 prose characters; one of the trio of "haste, rudeness, arrogance" could be removed to trim the length a bit. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Why not replace "omnipresent" with "looming" buildings, per source? And "a symptom" instead of "one sympton"? Cuts down on the characters. Adding "Dr."
  • ALT6: ... that in 1901, Dr. John Girdner identified nearsightedness, caused by looming buildings, as a symptom of Newyorkitis, with others being "haste, rudeness, arrogance" and "pretensions of omniscience"?
Coretheapple (talk) 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
ALT6 has too many commas. It also says everything in one line, making it unnecessary to click on the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, Yoninah, how about
ALT 7 * ... that in 1901, a noted surgeon identified Newyorkitis, caused by living in Manhattan, whose symptoms included haste, rudeness, and "pretensions of omniscience"?
'--Coretheapple (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Le Concert Spirituel

  • Reviewed: Hebrides Terrace Seamount
  • Comment: The article had a crazy history, developed independently by two users here, and one there, and merged. Users listed in chronological order.

Created by LouisAlain (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk), and Mccapra (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Reviewing... Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expanded 5x, I couldn't see any dodgy copyvios. Might I suggest the paragraphs should be merged a bit? QPQ done. Might I suggest the hook is a little wordy, and could be cut a bit? The hooky bit is that it was played with 18 oboes and a band, perhaps not that they focus on French sacred music, which could be gleamed from the prose in the article? Other than that, good to go. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:30, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you! Well, English music is not their normal thing to play, as their name suggests. We could drop that HIP clause. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused about the hook wording. Do you want to say:
  • ALT0a: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on French sacred music and opera, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
  • But there is no citation for the ensemble performing sacred music. And the first paragraph under Recordings lacks a cite.
  • Personally, I think there is too much going on in this hook. If they play sacred music and opera, why are we mentioning Handel? I think it would be more interesting to talk about the ensemble, like:
  • ALT1: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, founded in 1987, revives the French repertoire played at the court of Versailles, using period instruments?
  • As there is no citation for the period instruments part, that could be left off the hook as needed. Yoninah (talk) 23:49, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Trying to absorb:
ALT2: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on reviving music performed at the court of Versailles, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
I think we need to say "performed" vs. "played" as at least a hint that they mostly sing, not only play. Link to the court perhaps? Years are normally not hooky, and "revive" more or less includes the historically informed way, - how else would one revive? "sacred" would be supported by most titles in their recordings, but is a bit of an ambiguous word, so let's do without. As the reviewer noted, the 18 oboes are hooky - 2 is normal - so should not be left out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: but your ALT2 hook is still mixing chalk and cheese. If they specialize in old French repertoire, why are we talking about them playing Handel? Yoninah (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Because of the contrast. If me mentioned some French opera or Requiem, the whole "focus" thing could be dropped, but now the 18 oboes were (only?) in this English music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • So? It doesn't make sense to twist and turn a hook to fit into 18 oboes. Good hooks can be written from any information. Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 16[edit]

Ulrich Mohr

Ulrich Mohr in 1940
Ulrich Mohr in 1940
  • ... that Ulrich Mohr (pictured), a German naval officer on the Atlantis, led the search party of the captured Automedon that found documents revealing that the British could not hold Singapore if it was attacked by the Japanese?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 10:12, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Date, hook, article size, and sources all check out, and the article follows Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Photo licensing seems to be in order. Good to go. — Hunter Kahn 04:36, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg@Hunter Kahn:@Philafrenzy:@Whispyhistory: even without the "(pictured)", the hook is way over 200 characters long. Yoninah (talk) 12:18, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Oops yes, my mistake Yoninah, though it's actually only 13 characters over without counting the (pictured). Philafrenzy, how would the below hook work as an alternate? — Hunter Kahn 13:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
... that German naval officer Ulrich Mohr (pictured) led the search party of the captured Automedon that found documents revealing the British could not hold Singapore if it was attacked by the Japanese?
Thanks, that's fine. There is an alt as I am not sure that readers will get the full significance of the captured papers from the existing hook:
Alt1 ... that when seeking to board an enemy ship, German naval officer Ulrich Mohr (pictured) sometimes disguised himself as a British officer? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

San Michele Arcangelo ai Corridori di Borgo

View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
  • Reviewed: Old City of Hebron
  • Comment: In case of decision in favour of ALT1 we could substitute the picture of the church with that of the fresco, also in the article

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

  • The English needs a going over - I've put in Nursing Madonna instead of the wholly unidiomatic Virgin of the Milk with the Child! Johnbod (talk) 04:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • You are absolutely right @Johnbod: my mother tongue is Italian, and this is immediately apparent from reading the text. P.S. Maybe if you have time you could also have a look to the via Giulia article, which I expanded but, having been already on DYK, I cannot propose here. Alex2006 (talk) 10:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Climate sensitivity

Improved to Good Article status by Femkemilene (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Article being actively worked on; see talk page. HLHJ (talk) 04:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
  • And article work is now finished (other round of copy-edit + removal of jargon). Femke Nijsse (talk) 09:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

Amar Asha

  • ... that "Amar Asha" ("Immortal Hope"), a Gujarati poem by Manilal Dwivedi, was reviewed by Mahatma Gandhi in his magazine? Source: "Thaker, Dhirubhai (1956). Manilāla Nabhubhāi: Sāhityasādhana મણિલાલ નભુભાઇ: સાહિત્ય સાધના [Works of Manilal Nabhubhai] (in Gujarati). Ahmedabad: Gurjar Grantharatna Karyalay. pp. XV–XVI. OCLC 80129512.
  • Reviewed: Winston Price
  • Comment: GOCE request. Ongoing copyedit.  Done

Created by Nizil Shah (talk) and Gazal world (talk). Nominated by Nizil Shah (talk) at 05:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Drive-by comment: I added the translation of the title, but the hook really isn't that hooky. Yoninah (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah:, Mahatma Gandhi is a popular major figure in relation to politics and philosophy so readers may wonder about a poem reviewed by him. I found it the most hooky. -Nizil (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
And the most interesting fact is that, this review is the only literary piece written by Gandhi. --Gazal world (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, that would be a more interesting hook fact, Gazal world. As it stands, though, the hook is just name-dropping a famous person who "reviewed" it. How about adding more color to the hook? Like:
  • ALT1: ... that Mahatma Gandhi praised the Gujarati poem "Amar Asha" ("Immortal Hope"), saying that Hindus and Muslims "both should be proud of it"? Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Thats better. Thanks, -Nizil (talk) 06:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Oxford Circus

  • ... that Oxford Circus has been London's busiest pedestrian crossing? Source: "Oxford Circus has the highest pedestrian volumes recorded anywhere in London." ([22])
    • ALT1:... that you can get a bus in any direction within 200 metres (660 ft) from Oxford Circus? Source: " Bus stops are located within 200 metres of the junction on all four approaches." (as above)
    • ALT2:... that Oxford Circus was originally called Regent Circus North? Source: "Piccadilly Circus was originally formed in 1819 by the intersection of Piccadilly and Nash's New Street. It was one of the two links which joined together the three sections of Regent Street, and was known as Regent Circus South, Oxford Circus being called Regent Circus North" ([23])

Improved to Good Article status by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The first proposed hook is confusing as it implies that Oxford Circus might no longer be London's busiest pedestrian crossing. ALT1 isn't too interesting (but this might be my NYC bias where bus stops are spaced roughly every 100 metres (330 ft)). ALT2 might be obscure for those who don't know London too well.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg This seems pretty short for an intersection of this much renown, and especially for a Good Article. But it does meet all of the criteria. Incidentally (as a fun fact), you could've just claimed this as a 5x expansion and it would still have been eligible (expansion would have been calculated from 12 February). epicgenius (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

This source says Oxford Circus was the busiest but is no longer. In terms of scope, I discovered many sources that refer to "Oxford Circus" actually mean Oxford Street, Regent Street, Soho or Oxford Circus tube station, all of which are GAs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ritchie333: All right then. For ALT0, I suggest replacing "has been" with "was" or something else that confirms it is past tense. "Has been" might signify either past tense or that it is ongoing. The scope is fine: big cities tend to refer to different topics by the same name (our equivalent in NYC might be the Triborough Bridge, which refers to a bridge and to the parent authority). I can take a look at ALT0 again after the hook is changed. epicgenius (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Actually, on further thought, the fact that Oxford Circus is no longer London's busiest pedestrian crossing isn't in that article. So that would have to be added. Provisionally, I think I can technically approve ALT0 and ALT1, though I find the latter to be not too interesting. epicgenius (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 18[edit]

Arthur R. M. Spaid

Portrait of Spaid from History of Hampshire County, West Virginia (1897)
Portrait of Spaid from History of Hampshire County, West Virginia (1897)
  • ... that Delaware State Commissioner of Education Arthur R. M. Spaid (pictured) was a naturalist by hobby, and detailed his nature studies through illustrated articles and lectures? Source: "Professor Spaid is Commissioner of Education of the State of Delaware..." "His chief hobby for years has been nature study." "He has photographed hundreds of objects in nature, using the pictures for illustrating nature study articles. Several hundred of these studies have been used for making slides for illustrated lectures." (Source 1) Note: Additional supporting citations can be found throughout this article.

Moved to mainspace by West Virginian (talk). Self-nominated at 14:17, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Note: Please feel free to suggest alternate hooks. -- West Virginian (talk) 15:45, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Dan Lam

  • ... that sculptor Dan Lam was born in a refugee camp in Morong, Philippines?
    • ALT1:her work began to capture attention quickly. In 2016, her following on that platform grew rapidly from approximately 11,000 followers, to over 76,000, and included celebrities such as Miley Cyrus, an event which coincided with growing recognition in the art world of the importance of social media.

Created by WriteIncunabula (talk). Self-nominated at 18:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

Hiraizumi Kiyoshi

Created by Yunshui (talk). Self-nominated at 08:35, 19 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. I am a little uncertain on the sourcing of "After travelling in Europe in the early 1930s, Hiraizumi promulgated an approach to history known as kokoku goji shikan, a highly nationalist view centred on the importance of Imperial Japan." - some parts of it appear in source #1 but not all of the rest in #2. Is "high school" and "izanami"+"hakusan" mentioned in #3? I think perhaps #4 should be used for that. Which does not mention "Nihon shisoshi koza" as far as I can see. Is it a problem that #7 does not relate nationalistic view to the Shukokai? I am not sure if #9 and #10 supports all of the claims attributed to it. Hook is OK, didn't notice any plagiarism or copyvio. QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:42, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Now I remember why I haven't done a DYK for years...
  • I have split the sentence his travels in Europe, since my phrasing did make it look as though the one influenced the other; that's a fair criticism.
  • These are mentioned on page 226 of source #3.
  • This is covered on page 120 of source #4.
  • I can't access this page right now, but I'm pretty sure I recall source #7 specifically ascribing nationalistic views to the Shukokai.
  • If you want me to change things, you're going to need to be specific. I don't see anything ascribed to sources #9 and #10 that isn't supported. Yunshui 雲水 09:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yunshui:The main question regarding #9 is "Hiraizumi resigned from the University after the Allied Occupation, and returned to his home prefecture of Fukui, though he continued to give lectures. " - it's not at the link as far as I can see. Since that is a book review, is it in the reviewed book? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Looks like the source got split out in subsequent editing; it's in source #3 page 226 (now added to the article). Yunshui 雲水 08:57, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svgYeah, a source getting disconnected from the text it supports is one of the perennial editing problems here. It seems like this is ready to go now. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep, as the hook was altered in prep and the sets are being promoted to the queue. Here is the altered wording:
  • ... that professor Hiraizumi Kiyoshi unquestioningly believed that Emperor Jimmu was a real historical figure?
  • It's not clear what the word "unquestioningly" is adding here. Perhaps the hook needs new wording. Yoninah (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
This was added by Abductive in this edit with the summary There is some doubt that Jimmu was entirely mythological. I don't think it's a particularly good reason for adding that word, though.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I feel like the edit summary speaks for itself. Jimmu may have been real. There are four problems with his historicity: he was not descended of the gods, he was not the Emperor of all of Japan, he did not reign as far back in time as the interpreters of the legend claim, and it is unlikely that he reigned for 55 years. Additionally, he was used as by right-wing historians as some sort of example of moral authority. Anyway, if you guys want you can take my concerns into consideration, change the blurb to something else, or go back to the way it was before. Abductive (reasoning) 21:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 19[edit]

Baby Be-Bop

Created/expanded by Amdoubleu (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 20 February 2020 (UTC).


Image eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Review is incomplete - please fill in the "status" field

  • Are you sure of the de Lint source? I can't find it online, but I do find this which seems to indicate that a Michelle West reviewed this book in May of 1996. --valereee (talk) 13:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
@Valereee: Hi! Yes, I found the de Lint review using my library's online access to the Gale Literature Resource Center. Amdoubleu (talk) 17:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't like to mess with anything inside quotation marks if I can't get to the source myself, but I assume 'whimsical na-lure' is a typo, not a nod to some term the book uses? --valereee (talk) 13:43, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
@Valereee: While I agree it's a strange term, 'whimsical na-lure' is not a typo. de Lint uses it in his review. Amdoubleu (talk) 17:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Is that a digitally scanned version? I think it's artifact, maybe a stray mark on the page that turned a t into what was read as -l. 'Whimsical nature' is a common term, and this book has a magical setting which that term would understandably be used to describe. I think we can safely correct it. --valereee (talk) 21:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm thinking some context for the hook would be good. Can you come up with a version that adds at least the year and probably some indication of location, could be 'West Bend, Wisconsin' or 'a town in Wisconsin' or 'a town in the US' --valereee (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
@Valereee: Sure! I was worried about making it too long originally, but would be happy to include additional information!
That looks good; we might want to tweak it to an active statement like 'citizens in west bend wisc called for' --valereee (talk) 21:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

* I think the final words of the plot summary are too close to Amazon's description, unless that's a quote from the book, in which case we should put it in quotes. Do you have access to the book? --valereee (talk) 14:33, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

My library let me download and this phrase was indeed a direct quote from the book, so I've fixed this. --valereee (talk) 22:53, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: Thank you for the feedback and the addition of the quote! Amdoubleu (talk) 17:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Ping Amdoubleu --valereee (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Amdoubleu, other than that I think we're good! --valereee (talk) 21:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Hey, Amdoubleu, I think the last thing we're waiting on is tweaking the hook into active voice, something like 'A group in West Bend, Wisconsin, called for ...' --valereee (talk) 11:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Miller, Laura (June 2009). "A teen book burns at the stake". Salon. Retrieved February 5, 2020.

Billy (Black Christmas)

  • ... that, although commonly referred to as Billy, the main antagonist from the 1974 slasher film Black Christmas was never listed in the film's end credits? [1][2]
    • ALT1:... that, contrary to many slasher film antagonists, the true identity and motivations of Black Christmas's antagonist, Billy were never revealed?[3]
    • ALT2:... that the Billy, from the 1974 slasher film Black Christmas has been noted by critics and film historians as establishing many of the tropes that would later become a common occurance in the slasher film genre?[4][5]

Created by Paleface Jack (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 19 February 2020 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg I think it's great.★Trekker (talk) 17:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks.--Paleface Jack (talk) 23:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Saldy since it's been more than 7 days, it can't pas 1. New anymore. :(★Trekker (talk) 19:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ★Trekker, as long as this nomination was made on time, which it was, it passes the newness criterion, no matter how long the review takes nor how many adjustments are made to the article and hooks. So you can certainly complete the review without any fears in that regard. It's the creation date (or expansion date or GA date) vs. the nomination date. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:03, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed by new reviewer. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


References

  1. ^ Shaw-Williams, Hannah (September 17, 2019). "Black Christmas Original Movie Ending & Killer Identity Explained". ScreenRant.com. Screen Rant. Retrieved December 10, 2019.
  2. ^ Bob Clark (Director) (1974). Black Christmas (DVD). Canada: Ambassador Films.
  3. ^ Kent Byron Armstrong (January 1, 2003). Slasher Films: An International Filmography, 1960 Through 2001. McFarland & Company. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-7864-1462-8.
  4. ^ Benshoff, Harry (July 31, 2014). A Companion to the Horror Film. Wiley. p. 323. ISBN 978-1-118-88349-5.
  5. ^ Dinning, Mark (January 1, 2000). "Black Christmas Review". EmpireOnline.com. Empire Magazine. Retrieved February 21, 2020.

Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]

Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)

Henry Purcell, by John Closterman, 1695
Henry Purcell, by John Closterman, 1695
  • Reviewed: Emerson Emory
  • Comment: Sorry, a day late (because I was at a funeral almost all day yesterday). Sorry, such a long title that not much room is left for a hook. Sorry, the main source is offline. Sorry, even the publisher of his complete works (and many performers following) got confused about belonging or not to the Music composed for Queen Mary's burial, and the Z. numbers.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - I just don't see the proposed hook as interesting to a general audience
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I don't see this one going forward, because there's no compelling reason to waive/relax the newness standard in this case. Still a great article, just not one well suited to DYK to begin with. buidhe 16:35, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't know why a funeral in RL is no "compelling reason" for you. I really was not in the mood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think there's much harm done in an IAR exemption in this case, since it was only a day late. With that said, I agree that the current hook as written is too technical to be interesting to a broad audience, although I think the Queen Mary part has potential. How about wordings like these then? I've written them in such a way that they avoid using the full title as the main link:
ALT1 ... that Henry Purcell wrote a chorale composition for the 1695 funeral of Queen Mary?
ALT2 ... that among the funerary chorale compositions that Henry Purcell adapted from the Book of Common Prayer was one written for the 1695 funeral of Queen Mary?
I think something else could be added to these, or the wordings could be tweaked further, but they could serve as good starting points for further ideas. What do you think Buidhe? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:56, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, the title has to be there. It will be recognised by many. There are several funeral sentences, and for the funeral of Queen Mary, Purcell composed only this single one, the others being by a different composer. - Please understand the difference between "chorale" - based on a chorale - and "choral" - for choir, but again, better don't pipe at all. - For me, it IS interesting that Purcell didn't set several of the part of a funeral service at all, but this one - and only this one - twice. Could you perhaps word that better? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm really sorry Gerda, I was lazy and didn't read your entire comment. I still don't think that any of the proposed hooks are sufficiently interesting to a general audience, but I recognize that I may have higher standards than other people. buidhe 20:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
    Would you have a suggestion, based on the comments? Some days I feel lack of English more than others. I find it kind of quirky that the Queen gets the simple version, and it would make me want to find out why (because he supplied a missing part to the existing work of someone else, in that one's style). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm very sorry Gerda, but I think at this point you need to realize that not everyone in the world is knowledgeable about classical music, and what may seem quirky to you may not seem so to reviewers or to general audiences. There are times when it seems you tend to overestimate how much the typical reader would recognize terms, names, and titles, and your comment above (which implies that audiences might know about "Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts") is one of them. To be fair, I think many of us DYK regulars (myself included) are guilty of this, but it's something that needs to be avoided whenever possible. I would really suggest discussing with Buidhe about other possible hook wordings, those that may actually appeal not just to classical music fans, because right now it just doesn't seem that a hook about a complex and a simple would pass on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I am surprised that you think the average user would not recognise the terms "simple" and "Queen". - I oversimplified the value the various versions have for musicologists, for that average user's sake. Sloppy version of a hook: ... that if someone speaks about TkLtsooh you have to ask which one? Want to word that? Most people think there is only one.
ALT3: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) set no complete Anglican burial servive to music, but one of its sentences twice, Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
That was not the point I made Gerda. I didn't say that average readers wouldn't know about queens: in fact, I mentioned above that a hook about the Queen Mary aspect would likely be the best option here. What I was saying was that terms like "composed basically two settings", "a complex one early" or "a simple one" wouldn't make much sense to those unfamiliar with classical music. Your ALT1 (which I've renumbered as ALT3) has the same issue: it doesn't make sense to people who don't know its context. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I am afraid that I can't follow. My thinking: the sentence (without) will be highly familiar to everyone who knows English Anglican burial service tradition, which I assume will be many but not all, therefore I tried to explain the context, with a link. We could say that he wrote one of the many sentences for Queen Mary's funeral, but then would miss the one interesting thing: that for that purpose he composed a new one, although there was already an older one which he had polished again and again, (and therefore I said basically, because there are at least three versions of the early one). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Narutolovehinata5 asked me for feedback, so may I suggest another hook?
ALT4: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) composed two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts—one of which was for the burial of Queen Mary?
ALT5: ... that Henry Purcell (pictured) composed two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts, including a simple one for the burial of Queen Mary?
I feel like these may appeal to a greater audience. epicgenius (talk) 16:43, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Teikō Shiotani

  • ... that during a three-day trip around Shimane, the photographer Teikō Shiotani and four friends feared they would starve but eventually found curry and rice with duck eggs? Source: "We took photographs for three days and I thought we would die.... During that trip we didn't encounter a single woman. There were no inns; we just wrapped ourselves in straw mats and kept on walking. Finally we managed to get some curry and rice with duck eggs and it was delicious." Which is my translation of 「三日間、死ぬ思いして撮ったんじゃよ。(中略)まるで女に会わん旅じゃった。宿屋もなく、ゴザをまとい、ただただ歩いた。やっと、ありついたアヒルの卵入りのライスカレーがうまかったなあ」. Quoted in Takayuki Kobayashi (小林孝之), "Honshi sōkan 50-shūnen kinen tokushū: Besutan no aji o ikiru: Dai-ikkai getsurei shashin nyūsen Shiotani Teikō shi no baai" (本誌創刊50周年記念特集 ベス単の味を生きる 第一回月例写真入選塩谷定好氏の場合; This magazine's 50th anniversary special: Living for the feel of the Vest Pocket Kodak: The case of Teikō Shiotani, winner of the first monthly exhibition), Asahi Camera, April 1976, pp. 161–164. (For more detail, see the talk page.)

5x expanded by Hoary (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 20 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, copyvio check, neutrality, hook, all GTG. There is just one problem: the story from the hook does not seem to exist in the article. Please add it there. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
  • That's a serious problem indeed! But, ummm ... Right under the second paragraph of the section titled "Prominence", my browser shows me a block quotation saying:We took photographs for three days and I thought we would die. . . . During that trip we didn't encounter a single woman. There were no inns; we just wrapped ourselves in straw mats and kept on walking. Finally we managed to get some curry and rice with duck eggs and it was delicious.[n 7]. (Note 7 provides the source, and what was said in the original Japanese.) -- Hoary (talk) 05:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Old City of Hebron

The Old City of Hebron
The Old City of Hebron

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Starting review: Alex2006 (talk) 08:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The article complies with almost all the requirements for DYK, but I see two problems: the first is that at the moment it is out of scope: it does not deal about the historic center of Hebron, but above all about the Israel occupation of the historic center of Hebron. It is not even explained why UNESCO considers it as a World Heritage Site. I think that first of all we need an "history" section where to put the info about the occupation, and then the article needs to be expanded, or to be renamed. Moreover, it is not completely neutral; for example, in the last sentence of the introduction, the source used (haaretz) is a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper. It would be good to know also the point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron. Alex2006 (talk) 11:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

There are severe POV problems with this article:
  • The article it doesn't mention all the controversy and criticism surrounding of site recognition by UNESCO [24]
 Now added to article. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It only gives a small one sentence about Jewish community while omitting its rich history and what happened to her along the history
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It give POV explanation to the security measure by IDF from one side POV source without mention terrorist activities by Palestinian groups.
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
--Shrike (talk) 13:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Alessandro57 and Shrike: for your comments. I focused my efforts when building this article on setting out the main sights, the divisions of the city, the current legal status, and finding good maps (the maps bit being the most time consuming...) All these points are good and fair, but this article is not up for WP:FA so it isn’t expected to be a fulsome account of all the political and historical complexities. These points are all addressed in great detail in the parent article at Hebron.

How can we address your POV concerns without turning this into a very long and complex article and without duplicating all the information at Hebron?

Onceinawhile (talk) 13:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron seems to be explained here. I say "seems to be" because it is "a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper":) Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, then this point of view can be added (with its reference) to the article, and a point is solved. @Onceinawhile:, anyway, if, as you affirm, the "political and historical complexities" of Hebron are fully addressed in the article about the city, there is no need to repeat them here. Then I would focus the scope of this article on the historic center, writing more about the cultural and art treasures of the center itself, and maybe mentioning the controversy arisen because of the site recognition by UNESCO. Political and historical problems can be addressed through a redirect to the Hebron article or one of its sections. Alex2006 (talk) 17:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree I suggest removing the TIPH part, the UNESCO controversy should discussed from all angles also a connection to Jewish people should be mentioned explicitly.I think also if we want the hook about the Unesco the controversy should be part of the hook -Shrike (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
The observer group was originally set up following the well known massacre at the Ibrahimi mosque and since Israel is now insisting that it be included in the proposed annexation map being drawn up by an Israeli-US committee, it seems pertinent to retain the TIPH material in some (perhaps amended) form.Selfstudier (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't know what precisely you mean by "UNESCO controversy", do you refer to the U.S./Israel objection to the listing? If I recall there were only 3 votes against the proposal. However, I agree with the reviewer that it should be explained why UNESCO decided to list it.Selfstudier (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@Alessandro57: would you mind taking a look at the revised article and let me know if you would like any further changes? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment Nothing really has changed the article use the same POV language usage of partisan sites like +972 and Betzelem while no sites with opposites POVs provide only half truths for example it does mention IDF security measures and the Hardship of Palestinian Arabs but didn't say why they where in force. IMO in current form the article could not be promoted --Shrike (talk) 16:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I still don't see the reason why UNESCO inserted the historic center in the List of the heritage sites: this should be mentioned in the article. Moreover, I don't think that writing "covered adequately at Hebron#History" on this page solves the POV problem, since we cannot expect that a reader jumps by herself from this article to the one about Hebron: you should at least provide two redirects in the article explaining that if someone wants to know the Jewish history of the site and wants a non - POV explaination of the security measure by IDF should go to the main article (and, of course, it would be much better to have some information also here about these issues). Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 10:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
There were two aspects to the listing, the listing itself and the contemporaneous "in danger" listing (which is supposedly why the listing was expedited). I will see what can be found for both aspects. I do think we should be a little careful that do not mix up religion with nationality. The "Jewishness" is a religious thing (ie the comparative is Muslim/Christian). A listing is inscribed along with a nationality (usually, the Old City was proposed by Jordan and is not categorized under any country). In this case, that is Palestinian and not Israeli. So when Netanyahu is quoted as saying "[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/unesco-recognises-hebron-as-palestinian-world-heritage-site “This time they decided that the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron is a Palestinian site, meaning not Jewish, and that it’s in danger." it is this that is the POV position ie wrongly comparing Palestine with Jewish (a country with a religion). This mischaracterization is the basis of all of the Israeli complaints. Shrike, all sources are biased, should you actually have access to these mysterious non partisan sources then why not add them to the article or are you simply content to complain about the sources that don't agree with your own POV?Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, I wanted to ask the same: ;-) @Shrike:, why don't you work together with the author of the article and try to reach a compromise? Alex2006 (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I try to make it less POV but I think its nominator responsibility to make the article to meet the DYK standards. --Shrike (talk) 17:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I had to read the ICOMOS report to try and verify the real reason for inscription so what follows is OR. If I had to summarize the report, ICOMOS were forced to consider the application on an expedited basis based on Palestinian allegations of a threat to the site and while they did conclude that the property was under threat they were not convinced (that is, the case was not sufficiently made) that the listing was otherwise justified and sought a field visit to take that forward. Then that field visit never happened because they were refused permission and subsequently UNESCO passed a resolution inscribing the property onto the list of sites in danger based on what they had (ie what I just described). Locating secondary sources describing this might be a bit of a problem but I will have a go anyway. In the meantime, I directly linked the report (and the submissions) in the article text, at least people can read it for themselves (these are however, primary sources).Selfstudier (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I located a couple of secondary sources to document the above, I think that should clarify the "why" of the listing, that it was essentially a political decision based on the information available at the time.Selfstudier (talk) 13:25, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21[edit]

Integer BASIC

  • Reviewed: Reema Juffali
  • Comment: Series of edits over two weeks just hit 5x according to DKY Check. Lots of ALTs because, well, it's Woz, there's always lots of possibilities! Personally, I think "Woz" should be "the Great and Mighty Woz", but I doubt the nebbishes would allow it; so let's put it on one and see what happens. Question: lots of images of Integer BASIC being run, could any of them possibly be used?

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 3 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I don't wish to be such a party pooper on a fine expansion, but two weeks is outside of the timeframe to 5x expand, although I seem to recall on previous occasions we have turned a blind eye to that when the work has been particularly good. Yoninah, can you remind me what the generally accepted procedure is here? Also, I know what "The Great And Powerful Woz" is referring to, but not everyone will, so that'll need a source. Similarly, the prose jumps between "Woz" and "Wozniak"; I think for an encyclopedia we should go with the latter as "Woz" sounds too much like jargon for those "in the know". I personally like the main hook the best, it's the most quirky and the most interesting to a non-developer, but ALT1 works for me as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Wait, what? Had I any idea that was the rule, I would have simply edited all the changes in Smultron and uploaded in a single go. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ritchie333: hi, the rule is 7 days. I don't have time to check whether it's really a 5x expansion, but it looks like the nominator's work started on February 21, 11 days before nominating, which is only 4 days late. You could IAR if you want. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Edward Ardolino

Moved to mainspace by E54495a (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: You need to say WHEN it was moved to mainspace, especially when there are many hundreds of edits, as here. It was 21 Feb in this case. I won't review but some of the sculpture terminology is oddly used. One caption says the piece was "sculpted" by A and "carved" by B. The distinction needs to be clarified - presumably B was working from A's modello. Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Reply User:Johnbod Moved February 21, 2020. Nominated for DYK February 28, 2020. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Moved February 21, 2020. Nominated for DYK February 28, 2020. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Furman–Wofford football rivalry

Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 15:27, 22 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 23[edit]

Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana Board of Health

  • Reviewed: Querida Amazonia
  • Comment: No date desired on this one, although I think it's rather timely.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 05:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

La Dama Enmascarada, Irma González (wrestler)

  • ... that in 1958, professional La Dama Enmascarada was the first female forced to unmask when she lost a Lucha de Apuestas match to Irma González? Enciclopedia staff (September 2007). "Enciclopedia de las Mascaras" [The Eyclopedia of Masks]. La Dama Enmascarada (in Spanish). Mexico. p. 4. Tomo II.

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 05:31, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

Jesse H. Jones

Illustration of the Rice Hotel, KTRH radio's headquarters
Illustration of the Rice Hotel, KTRH radio's headquarters
  • ... that Jesse H. Jones named his radio station by the call letters KTRH to represent its broadcast location at The Rice Hotel (Rice Hotel pictured)? Source: "He put KTRH radio on the air in March 1930....The station's call letters—KTRH—corresponded to the Rice Hotel, its headquarters." Fenberg (2011), p. 181. [25]
    • ALT1:... that Jesse H. Jones was sometimes called "Jesus Jones" by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt? Source: "Roosevelt even called him "Jesus Jones."" Fenberg (2011), p. 1. [26]
    • ALT2:... that according to biographer Steven Fenberg, Jesse H. Jones was the second most powerful person in America during the Great Depression and World War II? Source: "The most powerful person in the nation during the Great Depression and World War II—next to Franklin Delano Rossevelt—was not a member of the president's Brain Trust; he was not a Wall Street figure, a military man, or a college graduate. He was Jesse Jones...." Fenberg (2011), p. 1.[27]
    • ALT3:... that Jesse H. Jones used his influence with the Houston Chronicle to support editor Marcellus Foster in publishing editorials against the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s? Source: "Foster wanted to prevent local violence and a possible takeover of Houston's government....he purchased from the New York World a twenty-part series about the Ku Klux Klan....Foster responded that he was not asking for Jones's approval—he simply wanted to warn Jones...." Jones wrote in response, "The Chronicle should stand for right, without fear, financial or otherwise." Fenberg (2011) pp. 106–107. [28]

Improved to Good Article status by Oldsanfelipe2 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC).

Malayanil

Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 06:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Green tickY
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - (1) Since all of the cited sources are off-line or non-English, it would be helpful to include a citation after each sentence. This will also be critical for a copy editor to rearrange sentences. (2) The following sentences need to be refined: "It is considered as the first modern short story in Gujarati. The story was praised for its humour, characterisations, theme and plot." In both cases, the question is: By whom? For the first sentence, it may be fine to say "generally considered" given the sources appear to support that. For the second sentence, was it praised by: contemporaries or later writers, critics, etc.; generally or by a particular individual?

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - Is it neutral to say he "pioneered Gujarati short story writing" versus "was a pioneer of ..."? This source appears to refer to a dispute over who is considered to be "the pioneer of the short story in Gujarati" (emphasis added), but I can't see the full sentence to be able to judge.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Is there any reason the photograph, File:Kanchalal Vasudev Mehta Malayanil.jpg, should not be included with the DYK hook?

QPQ: Red XN - Pending.
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The article generally meets DYK criteria but needs to be copy edited (requested by the nom here). Sourcing is partly verified and partly accepted in good faith, given nearly all sources are off-line or non-English. The only statements I could personally verify (relying on a machine translation of one source) were: he was born Kanchanlal Vasudev Mehta, raised in Ahmedabad, received a BA in Science, was unable to take his M.Lit. exam in Bombay due to illness, married Bhanumati, wrote "Govalani", was a/the pioneer of the non-didactic modern Gujarati short story, and died in Ahmadebad. The hook is interesting, as is the article overall. The question of "pioneered" (which reads like "the pioneer") versus "a pioneer" could be a non-issue, or one easily addressed by slightly rephrasing the hook and associated sentence in the article. QPQ is pending. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Black Falcon: I made changes in hook and in article: "a pioneer". I have also refined to above mentioned sentence. I have not added references to each and every sentence because it will unnecessarily clutter the paragraph when whole paragraph is based on that source. I have added references at the end of a sentence or a group of sentences. Regarding dispute of a pioneer, there is a consensus that he was a pioneer of "modern" short story writing in Gujarati. I will add note about this. Poor quality image so not included here. I will soon complete QPQ. QPQ ongoing added. Proposed refine hook below: -Nizil (talk) 07:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Indian writer Malayanil was a pioneer of modern short story writing in Gujarati?
Thanks for your response. Symbol possible vote.svg All content issues are addressed, so ALT1 is ready pending completion of QPQ. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Black Falcon, the QPQ review appears to have been completed, though Nizil Shah never posted that fact here. Please return when you can to wrap up your review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

Sony Xperia 1 II

  • ... that tech journalists noted the inclusion of a 3.5 mm audio jack in the upcoming flagship smartphone Sony Xperia 1 II? "It may also be the only flagship smartphone in 2020 with a headphone jack." (Ars Technica); "As well as the 3.5mm headphone jack, which makes a welcome return here" (Engadget)
    • ALT1:... that the Roman numeral suffix in the name of the upcoming flagship smartphone Sony Xperia 1 II is read "mark two"? "'The "Sony Xperia One Two?' [...] this thing is apparently the 'Sony Xperia One Mark Two.'" (Ars Technica)
  • Reviewed: Mayfeld
  • Comment: Crediting User:Ghostofakina for significantly expanding the article following its creation, from 424 chars to 3979 chars.

Created by Nimda01 (talk). Nominated by You've gone incognito (talk) at 15:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC).

Cape God

  • ... that Allie X gained inspiration for her album Cape God after watching a documentary about an opioid epidemic? Source: Billboard "The initial thaw for X began several years ago before Sunset had even seen the light of day, when she viewed the impactful 2015 documentary Heroin: Cape Cod, USA about the opioid epidemic in Massachusetts. "
    • ALT1:... that Cape God was Allie X's first album with vocal duets? Source: Exclaim "Cape God also marks the first time vocal duets play a role on an Allie X album."

Converted from a redirect by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 17:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC).

Partisan Congress riots

  • ... that one of the men who robbed František Hoffmann's apartment during the Partisan Congress riots left behind his Czechoslovak Medal of Merit?
    • ALT1:... that the Czechoslovak authorities denied that partisans were responsible for the Partisan Congress riots, instead blaming Hungarians and "reactionary elements"?
    • ALT2:... that the Slovak authorities suspended restitution to Holocaust survivors after the Partisan Congress riots because many partisans were unhappy returning property that they had obtained to the original Jewish owners?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]

Takapūneke

  • Reviewed: Jammu and Kashmir Public Safety Act, 1978
  • Comment: Well, this needs a tad more work. I had been working with a source (a 2015 article published on Stuff) that appears to be wrong as the Waitangi Treatment Ground does apparently not have National Reserve status. I'll look into it, fix the respective pages and comment here when done. But it needs to be nominated now as 7 days is nearly up.
  • Should be all good now. Schwede66 01:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - Two of the areas in the point-form list are uncited; the lede also contains uncited content.
  • Neutral: Red XN - No. "planning treachery" for instance; the source just says that the Ngai Tahu traditions say that Tama-i-hara-nui heard say that the Ngati Toa who were asking to come trade for greenstone were planning treachery (and the Ngati Toa who said they wanted to trade got killed in a dispute over a piece of greenstone, which does not provide proof that they were planning treachery). The source also seems to say that both parties had firearms. The complexity of the whole conflict need not be included in the article, and it's going to be difficult to describe it neutrally.
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Schwede66, this is clearly an article about a location. Would it be possible to include co-ordinates? Then we could have an OSM locator map in an infobox (Template:Infobox settlement might be suitable). I'd imagine quite a lot of people even in New Zealand don't know where Akaroa is without looking it up, so it would be helpful to readers. HLHJ (talk) 04:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the review, HLHJ. I've added an infobox and coordinates. Don't worry about New Zealanders, as they would know where Akaroa is located, but it's of course useful for non-New Zealanders. What was holding me back is a lack of a photo of the site (there are few photos online but none suitably licensed, and I'm not keen on a 200 km round trip to take one myself). I have clarified the sourcing for the bulleted list. Would you mind pointing me to uncited content in the lead, please? I assume you are aware of MOS:CITELEAD. With regards to NPOV, I've consulted another book that I've got in my library (and I'm not sure why I hadn't looked at it before) and its author is (or was) the authority on Banks Peninsula history. He uses the words "Te Rauparaha's chiefs were ambushed and killed within the pa in what seemed to be ... a well-judged pre-emptive strike ..." hence I don't think that the previous wording was out of line, but I've changed it nonetheless. The "offending passage", including the word "treachery", has been reworded and it should now be neutral enough. With regards to the complexity of the whole conflict, we will have to disagree on that point. There is, as you can imagine, a whole lot more to it and I have tried hard to distill it down to the bare essentials to give readers enough context without them having to read other articles before they can understand what was going on. Have a look and let me know what you think. Once again, thanks for checking this DYK nomination. Schwede66 06:00, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Here it is, looking southeastwards into the bay; Takapūneke is just right of the last of the residential housing on the far side. What a great anchorage!
Chart showing holding ground
  • Ah, the pitfalls of trying to review something one knows nothing about... at least I'll ask all the stupid questions. Thank you for your patience, Schwede66. Firstly, Earwig is now functioning (bug), and the page was always copyvio-free. Check. Thank you very much for adding the Infobox and locator map. Thanks for clarifying the list refs; that should have been clear to me, but was not. "the events subsequently called the Elizabeth affair" is uncited, and I should have specified that initially; I do not consider this serious and you can leave it if you like. The lede also states that Tama-i-hara-nui was tortured and killed; his Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entry says he was certainly killed, and that most accounts agree that agree that he was tortured by the wives of the eight Ngāti Toa chiefs, but this is not in the body of the article, so it is not cited.
I wasn't advocating that you remove detail on the conflict from the article; I was trying to say that I was not insisting you go on to add every detail you could find. I should have noticed that this could be ambiguous in a text-only channel. Your goal of distillation seems good. Certainly I wasn't suggesting that you go there and take photos; I was actually thinking of a live zoomable OSM map, as at Ōnawe Peninsula. However, you prompted me to poke around Commons, and I did find a (very high-res) panorama that shows it, but no closer images. It's also technically shown in File:Bucht in Neuseeland.jpg.[1]
On neutrality: if you have a book source which says that the Ngāti Toa were only pretending to want to trade for greenstone ("pre-emptive strike" does not quite imply that the Ngāti Toa did not come to trade for greenstone on that occasion), then "pretence" is fine; otherwise it might be better something like "Eight of Te Rauparaha's chiefs were killed after they had entered Kaiapoi Pā claiming that they wished to trade for greenstone". It seems that the Ngāti Toa had just razed one or two Ngāi Tahu pās, which does rather cast suspicion on the intentions of the eight chiefs, but this is supposition; I would have no objection to your leaving the reader to make it, or quoting an RS making it. The Dictionary of New Zealand Biography says (of an immediately preceeding conflict): "Tama-i-hara-nui was less than enthusiastic to fight when he saw the returning refugees were armed with muskets, although his party also had guns", which seems to contradict the statement that the Ngāi Tahu had no guns (though they might have had far fewer); possibly I have missed something here.
The rest of this is suggestions, not review. Ignoramus-perspective again, but while I don't fully understand the roots of this conflict, it seems that John Stewart's involvement was very simply grounded in a payment of 50 tonnes of muka (which implies, rather appallingly, that he set a value on human life of three or more lives to the tonne of muka). Would it make sense to mention that Te Rauparaha hired or chartered the brig and captain? This need not take more than one or two words, and seems relevant to the subsequent legal proceedings. I attempted to give a hint of the nature of the causal link to the Treaty of Waitangi; crit welcome. I've globalized the New Zealand English slightly by referring to Phormium tenax as "harakeke flax", as it makes the later statements about collecting flax make more sense than if one is imagining retting the stems of purple-flowering plants in the corner of a field... if you object feel free to revert or modify. I've also modified flax, as Wikipedia readers include speakers of New Zealand English Face-smile.svg. HLHJ (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
HLHJ, thanks for taking such a deep interest. Rather than writing a long and detailed response, I shall work through the list by individual edits and documenting what I've done in edit responses. As for the photos, yes, I've also done a deep search on Commons. The photo you included on this page is taken from Hilltop; it's "the photo stop" when you travel to Akaroa as it's the first (and best) place to gain a view of Akaroa Harbour. The peninsula at the beginning of the bay is Ōnawe, by the way. As for a photo of Takapūneke itself, I took one of the sewage treatment plant a few years ago but it's vanished. I've only recently become aware of Takapūneke's historical significance, which is somewhat surprising given my deep interest in local history. Schwede66 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I tend to overdo DYK reviews, Schwede66. I've made suggestions that go far beyond DYK requirements; don't feel obliged. The lack of photos on Commons does rather suggest that the site is not a major tourist destination (well, so did building a sewage plant). Thank you for documenting it; the article will now be accessible through many map interfaces. In Ngāi Tahu, I came across a source on the Elizabeth incident, and European reactions to it, along with the very extensive https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngati-toarangatira and https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu (including a detailed account, with an account why the chiefs were thought to be pretending to trade (overheard comments; the Ngāti Toarangatira may have relied too much on differences in local languages), and the surprising info that the legal difficulty was that anyone considered heathen was not allowed to be a witness in court: https://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu/page-6). HLHJ (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

No trouble. It's not a tourist destination whatsoever! If and when the national reserve status goes through that'll presumably change. It's good to have a decent article for it, though. I've finished working through the feedback; thanks heaps for taking so much interest. The article is all the better for it. Schwede66 22:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Jeez! Move all this to article talk please! Johnbod (talk) 03:47, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ There are a lot of near-misses: the headland on the right hosts the Britomart Monument shown at File:Akaroa 4 (31225076752).jpg. Also, File:Akaroa village grassland (Unsplash).jpg, view of the headland which hides the bay, far right, the bit just hidden behind the foreground hills to the far right here and here, and File:Banks Peninsula.JPG

Fennec Shand

Created/expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 13:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

Combe Hay Locks

The derelict Combe Hay Locks
The derelict Combe Hay Locks
Nominator's comments:
  1. I have rounded down the height (134→130 ft); is this a problem for DYK? Specific measurements in article. Could put {{circa}} in the hook but might be a bit clunky.
  2. If ALT1 is preferred (with image), the image should be thissaone.
  3. Article history may seem to show that the article was created on 7 January; this was the creation of my draft article (in userspace)—the mainspace article was created on 25 February.
MIDI (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Created by MIDI (talk). Self-nominated at 14:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC).

Upāli

Upāli
Upāli
  • ... that Upāli, the disciple of the Buddha who was most learned in monastic discipline, used to be a simple barber? Source:"Originally, Upāli had been a low-caste barber in the service of the Śākyan princes." (Mrozik 2004)

5x expanded by Farang Rak Tham (talk) and Spasemunki (talk). Nominated by Farang Rak Tham (talk) at 22:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

Bahra 1

  • ... that Bahra 1 is the oldest permanent settlement south of Mesopotamia? Source: "Science, vol. 335, Issue 6070, p. 790, DOI: 10.1126/science.335.6070.790" [29]

Created by Aszu23 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long and neutral enough. I'd add Kuwait to the hook. But I can't see the hook fact in the article, though it does check out from the linked ref. Please add. Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
As far as I can tell the relevant quote is ...which would make it the oldest cult building not only in Kuwait but in the whole Persian Gulf region; however, this appears to be referring only to a specific complex and not the settlement as a whole. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
It's very clearly stated in the linked source - it just needs adding to the article. Johnbod (talk) 00:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
The nominator hasn't edited since the day of the nomination, so I've left them a message. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Nikita Salogor

Moldavian irredentist map
Moldavian irredentist map
  • ... that in June 1946 Nikita Salogor called for expanding the borders of Soviet Moldavia (territorial claims pictured), which may explain why he was removed from his position as Moldavian leader in July? Salogor's full report to Stalin on expanding the borders, its context, and the authors' theory that this is why Salogor was fired, in Igor Cașu, Virgil Pâslariuc, "Chestiunea revizuirii hotarelor RSS Moldovenești: de la proiectul 'Moldova Mare' la proiectul 'Basarabia Mare' și cauzele eșecului acestora (decembrie 1943 – iunie 1946)", in Archiva Moldaviæ, Vol. II, 2010, pp. 275–370

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 07:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

Marvel × Shōnen Jump+ Super Collaboration

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]

Diether de la Motte

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

  • This is a drive-by comment, but the current hook is really niche and does not really appeal to a broad audience. Can something else be said about Motte other than him composing an opera? Perhaps something about his education career? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:01, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Relatively few composers write an opera these days, fewer get it performed, and even fewer get it performed at such a house. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Chiara Daraio

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 20:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 28[edit]

Ulrich Stranz

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

  • I would really suggest that a different hook be proposed here, as it basically says that a composer composed a work. It says nothing about his life, career, or accomplishments. In addition, the hook as written would only appeal to those interested in European classical music and not to a broad international audience, as it mentions niche topics such as a Munich performance or a soloist that most people have not heard of. I would suggest that a different hook be written about him, something that would make even someone not interested in classical music want to learn more about him. Perhaps the part that goes Stranz spent two years at the electronic studio in Utrecht could be a good starting point here? I'm really wondering what an electronic studio has to do with classical music.
As an additional comment, the part which goes Stranz died in Zürich shortly before his 58th birthday of cancer. He was buried at the Fluntern Cemetery. is unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
You are right, and I am busy, and know little about the person. Patience please. - Look at Stockhausen perhaps to understand how much classical contemporary music has to do with electronic music. The composer who recently died won the Pulitzer prize for a completely electronic piece of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Haʻaheo Kaniu

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 05:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think I like ALT0 the best, but the word "stole" doesn't seem to exactly reflect the relevant paragraph in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I was trying to make it more hooky. How about changing it to "took". KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I think that sounds more accurate. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 29[edit]

Daulat (Mughal painter)

Self-portrait by Daulat
Self-portrait by Daulat

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

J. David Jentsch

  • ... that neuroscientist J. David Jentsch studies pathways in the brain that lead to addiction? "Jentsch explained that his team is not looking for the full biological profile of an addict that has already been altered by drug use. Rather, they are looking for the potential neural pathways that could lead a person toward addiction, beginning with their first consumption of a drug." source
    • ALT1:... that the car of neuroscientist J. David Jentsch was firebombed by animal rights activists? "When Jentsch dashed to his bedroom window, he saw a terrifying sight: His 2006 Volvo was engulfed in flames. Someone had shoved a bomb underneath it." source

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Achaea (talk) at 20:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

John Tiedtke

  • ... that John Tiedtke was an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, and his proudest accomplishment was philanthropic founding of a Bach festival? Source: "Tiedtke’s most notable contribution to the arts was his involvement in the Bach Festival. Since 1950 he had served as the president of the Bach Festival and turned the program into the high quality performances that it is today." Furrow and here and there

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (☎), Wilcley (talk), and StrayBolt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

ALT 1 ... that John Tiedtke, an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, was the philanthropic founder of a Bach festival?
  • @7&6=thirteen: Hi, I will review this. I don't know what happened with the wikicode, but I fixed it. I respect that Cunard has contributed greatly to this page's AFD discussion to show that it's notable, but unfortunately, he has never edited the article so I have removed his name from the nomination. epicgenius (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @7&6=thirteen: I don't think he "founded" the Winter Park Bach Festival, but kept it going. StrayBolt (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • If this is the case, the article and hook should be amended accordingly. epicgenius (talk) 21:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • He was Chairman of the Board of Trustees for over 50 years.[31] StrayBolt (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Currently subject of AFD, so that will have to be resolved before this is approved or denied.

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg epicgenius (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Reply I have put in multiple sources establishing that the Tiedtke Family Mausoleum is at Woodlawn Cemetery (Toledo, Ohio). The only source I could find that explicitly places his remains in the crypt is this one at Find a Grave Did you know at Find a Grave. I do not have access to Woodlawn Cemetery records. I know that there are those who opine that Find a Grave is "not a reliable source." I've always thought that to be doctrinaire and not well thought out. In any event, I have no better source at my finger tips.
The proposed alternate hook is fine with me.
The AFD will soon be inevitably and satisfactorily resolved in due course. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
epicgenius AFD closed as KEEP. Per the closer: "The result was keep Since relisting to allow for examination of the sources, a consensus has emerged that the article should be kept." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Everything looks in order, but since I can't approve my own hooks, we will have to wait for another reviewer. epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I like it. Great work on this article! Lightburst (talk) 04:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Hook tweaked. AFD closed as Keep. We only need a new reviewer? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]

Provincial Mental Sanatorium Kortau

  • ... that hundreds of patients of the Provincial Mental Sanatorium Kortau died in Nazi Germany's Aktion T4 euthanasia program? Sascha Topp et.al.: "Die Provinz Ostpreußen und die nationalsozialistische „Euthanasie“: SS - „Aktion Lange“ und „Aktion T4“: p. 40 (engl. transl.) : "Probably far more than 400 patients came from there [Kortau] to Saxony in July 1941, where a smaller part of 78 patients were killed directly in the Pirna / Sonnenstein killing center using carbon monoxide gas. The greater part of the patient group was distributed in the interim system (...) of the same killing center in order to be later classified according to the killing capacity of Sonnenstein."

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self-nominated at 13:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

North West Liberties of Londonderry

North West Liberties of Londonderry
North West Liberties of Londonderry
  • ... that there were doubts which constituency in County Londonderry the freeholders of the North West Liberties of Londonderry (pictured) could vote in? Source: The Law and Practice of Elections in England, Scotland, and Ireland. A. Maxwell. p. 212. ISBN 1236995899.

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 00:40, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]

William Tennent III

  • ... that colonial-American minister William Tennent III was called the "Firebrand Parson" due to his strong support of religious and civil liberty? Source: "Nevertheless, his efforts in the American cause earned him the sobriquet "Firebrand Parson" among patriots in Charleston..." from p.161

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 23:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is within proper limits and is interesting. However, there are duplicate links in the body of the text. i.e.William Tennent and South Carolina General Assembly. Also, citations for book sources Howe(1858), Ramsey(1870), Kidd(2007), Bailey(1981), Krawczynski(2001), and Kramer(1953) lack page number designations. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, Having no duplicate links is not a DYK requirement, nor is referencing specific page numbers. As I recall, most or all of the sources only had about one page on Tennent, so I didn't bother with page numbers. The article can be edited by everyone should anyone want to make those kind of changes, but I don't think they are necessary. MB 02:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
DYK criteria pertains to the hook size, length of the article, new enough, etc. You will not find rules and guidelines listed under DYK criteria. It was my understanding that DYK nominations must follow the same rules and guidelines { 1, 2 ) as do all articles. If this is, for some reason, something you refuse to do, or can't be bothered with, good luck with the next reviewer. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

National Union of Freedom Fighters

  • ... that the National Union of Freedom Fighters in Trinidad and Tobago was the only group to sustain a guerrilla insurgency in the modern English-speaking Caribbean over an extended period of time? Source: "The origins of the second serious guerrilla movement in modern Anglo-Caribbean history and the only one to sustain prolonged military engagement in the field, can he precisely located some three years before these events" (Meeks, Brian (2000). "NUFF at the Cusp of an Idea: Grassroots Guerrillas and the Politics of the Seventies in Trinidad and Tobago". Narratives of resistance: Jamaica, Trinidad, the Caribbean. Mona, Kingston, Jamaica: University of the West Indies Press. p. 49)
    • ALT1:... that the funeral of Hillary Valentine, a guerrilla fighter with the National Union of Freedom Fighters drew 4000 mourners? Source: " In the first serious battle with the police, Hillary Valentine is killed and three policemen shot.Valentine is later given a large, enthusiastic, martyr's funeral in BlackPower-style, with the four thousand-odd mourners dressed in red" (Meeks, Brian (2000). "NUFF at the Cusp of an Idea: Grassroots Guerrillas and the Politics of the Seventies in Trinidad and Tobago". Narratives of resistance: Jamaica, Trinidad, the Caribbean. Mona, Kingston, Jamaica: University of the West Indies Press. p. 54)

5x expanded by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 01:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Blakenhall, Cheshire

  • ... that the rural parish of Blakenhall once housed one of Cheshire's earliest documented ironworks?
    • ALT1:... that the rural parish of Blakenhall, Cheshire, had an iron foundry during the Civil War? Sources: "On the fringe of Blakenhall lies Doddington Old Mill ... The same site was used as a furnace by Sir Thomas Delves, where the hammers and anvils were cast, and in 1667 the forge's output of pig iron was 500 tons." (The Cheshire Village Book p.34). & "How far there were furnaces, bloomeries and forges for iron-making in Cheshire is difficult to estimate. ... In 1619 a hammerman was mentioned in a register as belonging to Tib Green on Checkley Brook which is just inside the Cheshire southern border, and by 1646 there was certainly a refining forge or finery leased to Walter Chetwind of Rugeley. There may have been a forge refining pig iron at Madeley (near Crewe) or Heighley [neither is in Cheshire] ... During the Civil Wars, ironworks listed in Royalist Composition papers include Doddington, Lea, Church Lawton and Vale Royal." (Beck, p. 57). There is more detail pp. 73–81 of [32]
  • Reviewed: Greyfriars, Winchelsea
  • Comment: Prefer the main hook; the alt is in case the sourcing is not deemed clear enough to support "one of ... earliest documented" wording.

5x expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

Cale Morris

Improved to Good Article status by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:05, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]

Hack of Jeff Bezos' phone

  • ... that Jeff Bezos’s phone hacked by exchange a WhatsApp message that sent from the account utilized personally by Mohammed bin Salman? Source: telegraph
    • ALT1:... that Saudi experts claimed Bezos's coverage of Khashoggi's critical columns about bin Salman and his struggle of repression against activists were reasons for the hack? Source: theguardian

Created/expanded by M1nhm (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However I have some serious concerns about this. First of all, the article is written in broken and ungrammatical English. Second of all, that title is very provocative and in my view seems to violate WP:NDESC. Thirdly, this is very WP:NPOV here and those hooks could not be accepted at all as they, and the article seem close to libellous if we ran them (article says the alleged hack came from the Prince's phone, but that doesn't prove he sent them). @M1nhm:, can you answer my concerns because I have to be honest, I am very close to declining this at the moment. But may ask advice from WT:DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @The C of E: I apologize for the delay in response. About ungrammatical English: the article was copy-edited.For WP:NDESC: I used this title (Hack of Jeff Bezos' phone) based on reliable sources like telegraph and nytimes and theguardian . I was going to change the title to "allegation to hacked of jeff's phone", but it is n't true. Please note that the phone was hacked (it is fact) but hacking by Saudi crown is questionable. So that I think the current title is true because I said nothing about who did the hack into the title.For WP:NPOV: I tried to collect all of the opinions in the article. Anyway please give me more time to find and fix NPOV issues. M1nhm (talk) 08:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
      • If that was copyedited, I suggest you ask someone else because it clearly wasn't done by someone who was fully familiar with the English language. Examples: " the massage was sent from the personal account of the crown prince", "after the National Enquirer has released details of Bezos's private life". I'm sure you can see how this is clearly incorrect English, looks a lot like a google translate attempt to me. It will need some serious cleanup before we can even consider promoting this @M1nhm:. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
        • I tried to review the article and fixed the problem that were mentioned by you. If there are problems, please let me know. M1nhm (talk) 06:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Kathleen Pelham Burn

Kathleen Pelham Burn
Kathleen Pelham Burn
  • ... that Kathleen Pelham Burn, a Countess of Drogheda, was nicknamed "The Flying Countess" because of her involvement with early aviation? Source: The best is a scanned copy of a contemporary news report that is available on Commons archive
    • ALT1:... that early 20th century socialite and aviator Kathleen Pelham Burn also competed at Wimbledon, held seánces for art masters, and married both an Irish and a Mexican aristocrat? Source: All described in Turtle Bunbury's writings.
  • Reviewed: Thomas I. Gasson
  • Comment: New creation of article; a version I have never seen was deleted last year in a user copyvio investigation.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]

Art pottery

Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)
Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)
  • ... that the interest art pottery took in ceramic glaze effects led to some pieces still being slightly radioactive today? Source: Bergesen, Victoria, Bergesen's Price Guide: British Ceramics, 1992, Barrie & Jenkins, ISBN 0712653821; for general info on radioactive ceramics, see Radon, Health and Natural Hazards, Editors: G.K. Gillmore, F.E. Perrier, R.G.M. Crockett, pp. 50-52, 2018, Geological Society of London, ISBN 1786203081, 9781786203083, google books
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Khalili Collection of Kimono

Kimono from the Khalili Collection
Kimono from the Khalili Collection
  • Reviewed: Angélique Duchemin
  • Comment: I authored the article in Draft space and another editor moved it to mainspace on 4th March.

Moved to mainspace by MartinPoulter (talk). Self-nominated at 14:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

H. E. Merritt

Churchill tank
Churchill tank
  • Reviewed: To be done
  • Comment: Still expanding it

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Freimut Duve

Freimut Duve in 1979
Freimut Duve in 1979

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:56, 9 March 2020 (UTC).

Jeffrey and Jill Erickson

  • ... that Jeffrey Erickson, who was accused of robbing Chicagoland banks together with his wife Jill, was a former Hoffman Estates police officer? Source: "The accused man, Jeffrey Erickson, 34 years old, a former police officer in Hoffman Estates, a Chicago suburb, was being returned to the Metropolitan Correctional Center after a court appearance at the Dirksen Federal Building at the time of the shootings, said Ross Rice, a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation." (The New York Times [34])
    • ALT1:... that Jeffrey Erickson, who was accused of robbing Chicagoland banks together with his wife Jill, owned and operated a well-regarded Roselle used book store? Source: "In May, Jeff—a voracious reader who often checked out 15 library books at a time—opened a large used-book store in a shopping strip in Roselle. “I had heard bookstores were lucrative,” he says, “and I like working with people.” Customers were impressed; his books were in superb condition, and “he was very knowledgeable about the classics,” said customer Greg Heier." (People [35])

Created by StonyBrook (talk). Self-nominated at 16:03, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

Scrcpy

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 05:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]

Black ruff

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 07:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Town Lake Gazebo

Town Lake Gazebo
Town Lake Gazebo
  • ... that the Town Lake Gazebo (pictured) was built from donated materials using pro bono labor? Source: "Local construction companies, material suppliers, and workers contributed in-kind donations valued at $30,000. ... Progress was slow because all the work was provided pro bono." ([36])
    • ALT1:... that the roof of the Town Lake Gazebo (pictured) has the shape of a hyperbolic paraboloid? Source: "The gazebo features a striking hyperbolic paraboloid roof with folded plate ridges and valleys." ([37])

Created by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:56, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

HBCU band

Drum majors of the Jackson State University marching band
Drum majors of the Jackson State University marching band

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]

Desmoncus

  • ... that most species in the palm genus Desmoncus climb using grappling hook-like structures called acanthopylls? Source: "The name is derived from the Greek words desmos, meaning a band, and ogkos, meaning a hook, in reference to the climbing hooks, or acanthophylls on the leaves" (p.3) and "This climbing organ can be defined as a distal section of the rachis which does not bear pinnae but rather acanthophylls" (Henderson, Andrew (2011). A revision of Desmoncus (Arecaceae). Phytotaxa. 35 (1): 1–88)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 20:20, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Ball Farm

Ball Farm, Hankelow
Ball Farm, Hankelow
  • ... that Ball Farm (pictured), in the small Cheshire village of Hankelow, dates from 1510 and might once have been used as a district court? Source: "It is probable that Ball Farm was used as a Court of Justice for the district" [40], p17 & "Ball Farm, which was built in 1510 and probably used as a Court of Justice." ([41], p59)
  • Alt1: ... that Ball Farm (pictured), in the small Cheshire village of Hankelow, might once have been used as a district court?
  • Reviewed: Michela Gallagher, Aberbargoed Grasslands
  • Comment: Double hook; Ball Farm is new (11 March), Hankelow (6 March) is an expansion. There is a little overlap but both are well over the minimum. The date is given in several places but the listing gives a wide range hence the alt.

Created/expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self-nominated at 08:27, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Monster Island (play-by-mail game)

  • ... that Monster Island won the Origins Award for Best New Play-By-Mail Game of 1990? Source: http://www.originsgamefair.com/awards/1990/list-of-winners
  • ALT1:... that Monster Island was one of the longest-running Play-By-Mail Games by 1997? Source: Steven DuBois, (1997). "Monster Island: A Review". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. Jan/Feb 1997 (#82): pp. 4.
  • ALT2:... that besides exploring an island continent larger than Australia, joining groups, and using magic, players could make "Zombie Juice" in the Play-By-Mail Game Monster Island? Source: Richard L. Smith, (1997). "Monster Island: Land of Discovery". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. Jan/Feb 1997 (#82): 7, and Phil Breault, (1992). "A Visit to Monster Island". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. May/June 1992 (#56): 16.

Created by Airborne84 (talk) and BOZ (talk). Nominated by Airborne84 (talk) at 05:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

Jessye Norman

Jessye Norman in 2014
Jessye Norman in 2014
  • Comment: The article had many editors in a long history, - I don't know how to credit whom how.

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 17:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

HP Slate 21

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 10:08, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]

George Pechell Mends

  • ... that in the age before photography, drawing skills were a requirement of junior naval officers? Source:https://www.mallgalleries.org.uk/learning/resources/history-marine-art)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Broichmore (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Broichmore, Yeah that is exactly what a QPQ is. You get QPQ when you review a did you know nomination. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Michela Gallagher

Created by Achaea (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time. QPQ done. Article is not negative. Hooks are both concise and interesting. The main hook needs more wikilinks, at least to the two diseases.
  • However, I think the sourcing needs work throughout eg newsletters and ScienceDaily summaries are not considered sufficiently reliable to make claims, particularly relating to medical topics, which must be supported by WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. Given the sourcing quality, there is a problem with making claims and talking about what her company is doing without promotion. Gallagher's research seems highly cited and should be treated in depth in much more reliable sources.
  • The source for the main hook does not seem to meet MEDRS requirements, which would be necessary to talk about a drug for use in humans. Alt1 is supported by a newsletter from Johns Hopkins, which is not sufficiently independent to make a claim.
  • Earwig[42] found some minor overlap with [43] and other sources, which could do with rephrasing.
  • Another problem I see is that the article is rather stub-like, and not fully wikified. It's not always easy to find year of birth and country of birth (if American, why go to UCL?) for living scientists who shun the limelight, but without those key biographical elements it feels less a biography than a career summary and company profile. You should link her Johns Hopkins home page [44], CV [45] and Google Scholar profile [46]. I did find a few tidbits from a brief web browse:
  • She served as Editor-in-Chief of Behavioral Neuroscience 1995–2001 (CV & [47]) -- the latter article has more on her research c. 2001
  • Per her CV, she's also an elected fellow of several societies, which should be included, especially if an independent source can be located.
  • She originally studied fine arts[48]
  • She was one of the first two women to graduate from Colgate University and was the first woman to get a PhD there.[49] (and above)
  • Past Chair of Johns Hopkins Department of Psychological and Brain Science & Vice Provost of Academic Affairs and Faculty for 4 yrs (as above)
Espresso Addict (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Thanks for the review, I'll try to address your points asap. I'm don't think WP:MEDRS is really applicable here, because it is about what science she does, rather than saying that the claims are true. I can add her own articles on the studies, but these would not count as secondary sources for the scientist, only for the topic (e.g. can use them in the mild cognitive impairment article). I'm happy to just go with the second ALT though, if you're worried about the first one. Also, all the overlap on Earwig are names of her position or of the prizes she's won, I really cannot rephrase those things, as they are just simply names.
I will have a look of adding in that information, obvious you are also welcome to. However, the article is long enough and a start article, so following the rules of DYK, that shouldn't be a reason to stop the DYK, right? Thanks! Achaea (talk) 11:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Beatmania IIDX (video game)

The Beatmania IIDX controller's seven keys
The Beatmania IIDX controller's seven keys

5x expanded by I'm Aya Syameimaru! (talk). Self-nominated at 14:43, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ "overall on beatmania IIDX". Konami. Konami. 1999. Archived from the original on February 6, 2007.

Primary One Admission System

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 10:54, 7 March 2020 (UTC).


QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Interesting article, interesting hook! AGF on the foreign language sources but I've verified the hook, which has an English-language source. — Bilorv (talk) 13:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Sikkim tea

Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India
Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India

Created by Dishita Bhowmik (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 8[edit]

Thomas Stephens (historian)

  • ... that Thomas Stephens (1821–75) was the first Welsh historian to employ rigorous scientific methods and did more to raise the standards of the National Eisteddfod than any other Welshman of his time? Source: a. "[Stephens] is generally considered to have been the first Welsh literary critic to adopt a scientific method and to have done more, as an adjudicator, to raise the standards of the National Eisteddfod and to win for it the confidence of scholars, than any other Welshman of his time." Stephens, Meic, ed. (1986). Oxford Companion to the Literature of Wales. Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 563.
    b. "Stephens was almost the first native Welsh scholar of this century to apply a rigidly scientific method to the study of Welsh history and literature." Thomas, Daniel Lleufer. "Stephens, Thomas (DNB00): Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 54". Wikisource.
  • Reviewed: 3rd DYK nomination, 1 article reviewed previously

5x expanded by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:45, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Afşin-Elbistan C power station

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Constitution Party (United States, 1952)

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ "Byrd Spurns The Bait". Standard-Speaker. September 5, 1952. p. 4. Archived from the original on March 7, 2020 – via Newspapers.com.
  2. ^ "Constitution Party Backs M'Arthur, Byrd; Hopes to Woo Electors' Votes". Chattanooga Daily Times. September 1, 1952. p. 1. Archived from the original on March 7, 2020 – via Newspapers.com.

90 West Street

90 West Street
90 West Street
  • ... that 90 West Street (pictured), damaged by falling steel in the September 11 attacks, may have survived because of its use of terracotta? Source: NY Times 2001
    • ALT1:... that 90 West Street (pictured) was among the first skyscrapers to consistently use neo-Gothic-style decoration? Source: Irish, Sharon (April 1989). "A 'Machine That Makes the Land Pay': The West Street Building in New York". Technology and Culture. 30 (2): 395-396.
    • ALT2:... that 90 West Street (pictured), built on the shore of the Hudson River, survived the September 11 attacks but is no longer located along the waterfront? Source: NPS p. 12
    • ALT3:... that 90 West Street (pictured) was intended as "a machine that makes the land pay"? Source: NYCL p. 4

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 05:05, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]

Barbara H. Bowman

Created/expanded by Citing (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough, nominated in time, should perhaps be moved to 10th when created (but that might be a timezone issue). No QPQ noted but editor appears not to have any DYK credits. No obvious neutrality problems in the article but unfortunately I think some work is still needed before this is ready for DYK.
  • The hook is concise & interesting to me, but might need a bit of unpacking for the general reader.
  • The source is not cited inline with the fact in the article.
  • Earwig seems completely down at the moment but a spot check found too much similarity to the wording in Ref 1.
  • Despite the length, I'd still characterise the article as a stub. For example, it is missing the timeline of her career -- it jumps from doctorate to death in Life section -- usually there's a position-by-position account with dates. The Life section needs breaking up, and the honours part moving to Legacy or under Awards and honors.
  • There are also major problems with the sourcing. Most of the Research career section is not sourced, or sourced only to primary sources. Most of the material in the infobox also needs a source.
  • Full details needed for refs 1 (not clear from pages that it is just the legend to the cover), 2, 3
Espresso Addict (talk) 05:04, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Engineer Special Brigade (United States)

Monument for the 1st Engineer Special Brigade on Utah Beach
Monument for the 1st Engineer Special Brigade on Utah Beach
  • ... that during World War II, the 1st Engineer Special Brigade (monument on Utah Beach pictured) fought in Italy, Normandy and Okinawa? Source: [50]
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/MAX Light Rail
  • Comment: Image is there if you want it

Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC).

Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus outbreak on cinema

Liu Yifei in 2016
Liu Yifei in 2016
  • Reviewed: Tochter Zion, freue dich
  • Comment: Mulan opens on March 27, if using alt0 could this run on that day? For alt1, sorry for the pun on Bond.

Created by Erik (talk) and Kingsif (talk). Nominated by Kingsif (talk) at 00:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

  • I think ALT1 goes against WP:EGG and, to be frank, is rather tasteless. We can just state that the James Bond film No Time to Die is being delayed. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Struck it. That’s why I said sorry in the comments- I find it dark humor, but thought some people could not. Kingsif (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Nelson House, London, Rotherhithe Street

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:09, 9 March 2020 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Solid articles, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The house image is fine, showing well even small, and licensed, but I would not use it as lead image for the street also, which looks confusing. Too many pics in the street anyway unless the text gets expanded. What do you think of "along the Thames" in the hook, to make it a bit more interesting? Awaiting qpqs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
  • QPQs done (1 hook with 2 articles), fine with alt hook suggestion, although I prefer River Thames to Thames, as non-British viewers may not immediately associate Thames with the river
  • ALT1: ... that the Grade II* listed Nelson House (pictured) is situated along the River Thames on Rotherhithe Street, London's longest street? Joseph2302 (talk) 19:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Charles Spencer Francis

Francis in 1906
Francis in 1906
  • ... that Charles Spencer Francis (pictured) served in the same diplomatic roles as his father, John M. Francis, did? Source: "His father, John M. Francis, was also at one time Ambassador to Austria-Hungary [...] in 1870 ... his father, then United States Minister to Greece. He [the son] was appointed Minister to Greece [...] in 1900 ..." [51]
  • Reviewed: Review not necessary — less than 5 DYKs.

Created by Javert2113 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I would suggest that more context about Francis be added to the hooks: it is not really unusual or even uncommon that children of diplomats would go on to become diplomats themselves. I would advise proposing hooks that focus specifically on Francis's diplomatic career, independent of his father. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
That actually sounds much better and more unusual, although there's something that needs to be clarified: was it the world record in general, or only for intercollegiate sports? I've also linked to single scull as I don't think it's a term that general audiences would be familiar with. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, just intercollegiate, per his NYT obituary. Blast, sorry that this DYK is such a pickle, Narutolovehinata5. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 02:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I think it's still okay even if it was simply intercollegiate, ALT2 will just need to be revised accordingly. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Made the change. (Appreciate the formatting fix, Mandarax!) — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 12:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
That sounds good. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful. Thank you so much! — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 12:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 10[edit]

St. Kolumba, Cologne

  • ... that the remains of St. Kolumba in Cologne after Wolrd War II bombing, a wall and a statue of Mary, are now part of a chapel within the Kolumba museum? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Cimicidae

A bed bug
A bed bug

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 06:26, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Northgate, West Sussex

The shopping parade and flats at Woodfield Road, Northgate
The shopping parade and flats at Woodfield Road, Northgate
  • ... that when the shopping parade and accompanying flats (pictured) in Northgate, West Sussex were first built, every flat was mistakenly given the same door lock and key? Source: Covered both by Green & Allan (1993) p82 and by Cole (2004) p97, but most easily quotable from the latter, which is the caption to an image of the Northgate shopping parade: "Sometimes in the construction of the New Town things weren't thought out too clearly. Amusingly the pharmacy, not the post office, had the pillar box, and the flats above all had the same front door keys.."

5x expanded by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Dana Fischer

Dana Fischer at GP Los Angeles 2019
Dana Fischer at GP Los Angeles 2019

Moved to mainspace by GRuban (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Elisabeth Lindermeier

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nelson House & Rotherhithe Street

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]

Beyond the Stellar Empire (play-by-mail game)

  • ... that Beyond the Stellar Empire was an open-ended "space opera" play-by-mail game where players could join corporations, alien races or a pirate band called Raiders of the Imperial Periphery (RIP)? Source: Stephen Marte, (1987). "Beyond the Stellar Empire". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. March/April 1987 (#23), p. 6.
    • ALT1:... that the play-by-mail game Beyond the Stellar Empire was part of the "stomping grounds" of the genre's "best power gamers" allowing players to join a pirate band or become a space colony governor? Source: Stephen Marte, (1987). "Beyond the Stellar Empire". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. March/April 1987 (#23), p. 6.
  • Comment: Second DYK nom — open to changes as needed

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Corporate debt bubble

  • ... that a characteristic of the corporate debt bubble is that one-sixth of all publicly-traded companies in the U.S. do not make enough profit to cover the interest on their own corporate bonds? Source: "Access to low-cost credit helped many companies grow and hire. But it also enabled some that weren’t profitable to survive by repeatedly refinancing their debt. These “zombie” firms, which do not earn enough to cover their interest payments, account for 1 in 6 publicly traded U.S. companies" (Washington Post)

Created by Featous (talk). Self-nominated at 00:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Elizabeth Theiss-Morse

Created by Astrophobe (talk). Nominated by Achaea (talk) at 12:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Open Secrets: India's Intelligence Unveiled

  • ... that of all the memoirs written by intelligence operatives Open Secrets is one of the most vainglorious?
Source: "A good many exposes of the CIA, the FBI and the MI5 and MI6 have been published. None of them, however, was written in the manner Dhar writes. None of the intelligence operators was as vainglorious as he is." (Noorani, A. G. “Intelligence and the Political System.” Economic and Political Weekly, vol. 40, no. 13, 2005, pp. 1330–1333. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/4416397. Accessed 11 Mar. 2020.Copy)

Moved to mainspace by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Sunswick Creek

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Of the three hooks proposed, the first one is probably the best, though I'd suggest mentioning the year just in case people get upset and think that the quote is recent. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:02, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Oxford Vulgate

Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate
Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate

Created by Veverve (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Benedictine Vulgate

Title page of the first volume of the Benedictine Vulgate, 1926
Title page of the first volume of the Benedictine Vulgate, 1926

Created by Veverve (talk). Self-nominated at 19:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Tamara Levitt

  • ... that Tamara Levitt discovered meditation during an eight-week mindfulness and meditation course she took at an eating disorders centre in Toronto? Source: "An eight-week mindfulness and meditation course she took through Sheena’s Place (a treatment centre for eating disorders in Toronto) deserves some of the credit for her recovery." [53] "According to her website, Levitt discovered mindful meditation during an eight-week course at an eating disorders centre." [54]

Created by Jauerback (talk). Self-nominated at 21:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Darmstädter Ferienkurse

1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
  • ... that the Darmstädter Ferienkurse (1957 course pictured) were initiated in 1946 [as a meeting of composers, performers and philosophers,] to connect German contemporary music to the international scene again, after its suppression by the Nazis? Source: [55]
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Too long, and we could say much more about these legendary courses, Stockhausen, award, impact ...

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Jerome Kohl (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Trichophorum cespitosum

  • ... that flatter mires in montane regions in Europe are often dominated by deergrass and cottongrass? Source: "The flatter mires above 800-1000 m are dominated by deergrass forming the "Eriophoro-Trichophorum cespitosum" [community]."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

WKZX (Maine)

  • ... that the finances of the owner and operator of Maine radio station WKZX were so intertwined that it was difficult to prepare separate tax returns for the two companies? Source (page 1)

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 18:18, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Eugene W. Chafin

  • ... that Eugene W. Chafin, the presidential candidate of the Prohibition Party in 1908 and 1912, had a brick thrown at him in 1908 during a lynch mob riot?[1]

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ "One Man Killed; Other Injured; 5,000 in Streets". Pittsburgh Daily Post. August 15, 1908. p. 1. Archived from the original on March 10, 2020 – via Newspapers.com.

Articles created/expanded on March 13[edit]

Development of Uncharted 4: A Thief's End

Improved to Good Article status by Rhain (talk). Self-nominated at 00:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Selin Şahin

  • ... that Selin Şahin is the first women's wheelchair basketball player of Turkey to have been transferred by a foreign country club? Source: "Reggio Calabria: Selin Sahin la prima atleta turca nella storia a varcare i confini del proprio paese per sposare il progetto della BiC" (in Italian) [56]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 09:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

It's a Crime (play-by-mail game)

  • ... that players chose their own gang names such as "Killer Penguins", "Molly Maguires", and "Zaphod Beeblebrox" in the play-by-mail game It's a Crime which won Origins Awards in 1986 and 1989? Source: John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 1: The Making of A Mob Boss or "My Son, The Criminal"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. July/August 1988 (#31), p.8; John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 2: The Struggle for Godfather or "Making Offers You Can't Refuse"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. September/October 1988 (#32): p. 8.
    • ALT1:... to achieve victory as "Godfather", players had to first succeed as a gang leader before rising to mob boss level in the play-by-mail game It's a Crime which won Origins Awards in 1986 and 1989? Source: John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 1: The Making of A Mob Boss or "My Son, The Criminal"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. July/August 1988 (#31), p.6.
  • Comment: Third try for a DYK nomination in an under-represented play-by-mail topic — shows the diversity of Wikipedia articles

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Charles Wilkins (writer)

  • Reviewed: 4th DYK nomination, 1 reviewed

Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Corona Rintawan

Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Vulgate manuscripts

A page from the Codex Amiatinus.
A page from the Codex Amiatinus.
  • ... that the oldest manuscript of the Vulgate, a 4th-century translation of the Bible in Latin, is the Codex Amiatinus which dates from the very beginning of the 8th century? Source: "Codex Amiatinus is the earliest complete Latin Bible. It is one of three giant, single-volume Bibles, made at Wearmouth-Jarrow in the early years of the 8th century. [...] Created: Before 716" ([57])
    • ALT1:

Created by Veverve (talk). Self-nominated at 10:42, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]

Shakespeare and Star Trek

  • ... that Starfleet Captains have been Kings of England, too? [58] page 74 [59] page 268 (Shatner and Stewart have both been Shakespearean kings)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Comment: This is my third DYK nomination

Created by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Václav Kopecký

  • ... that the Czechoslovak Communist politician Václav Kopecký "distinguished himself with antisemitic diatribes" and attacked Jews as Zionists and rootless cosmopolitans?
    • ALT1:... that despite having belonged to the same underground Communist cell, Václav Kopecký became a personal enemy of Rudolf Slánský and stage-managed his show trial?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Augustus Pierce

  • ... that when Tammany Hall lost control of the New York City Board of Aldermen, the shock caused the death of Tammany Hall politician Augustus Pierce? Source: "So shocked by this unimaginable development was ... Augustus Pierce that he ... clutched his chest and dropped dead as well" [60]
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
QPQ: Siena Piano, in progress

Created by John M Wolfson (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Donal Reid

  • Comment: First sentence of very last paragraph. For April Fools' Day.

5x expanded by Litelad (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Sato Project

Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador
Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador
  • ... that Christina Beckles the founder of Sato Project had a "dog allergy requiring weekly injections" while coordinating flights for stray dogs from Puerto Rico to the U.S. for adoption in 2012? Source: [61]
    • ALT1:... that Christina Beckles, the founder of Sato Project, who coordinates travel of Puerto Rican stray dogs to the U.S. for adoption, has a "dog allergy requiring weekly injections"? Source: [62]

Created by The Eloquent Peasant (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Giovanni Antonio Grassi

Giovanni Antonio Grassi
Giovanni Antonio Grassi

5x expanded by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Siena Piano

Siena Piano aka Immortal Piano
Siena Piano aka Immortal Piano
  • ... that the Immortal Piano (pictured) is partially built with wood from the pillars of the Temple of Solomon? Source: "it is claimed that the source of wood for the piano was from the trees Hiram brought to King Solomon for the building of the first Temple." (Winners Auction House)
    • ALT1:... that the 221-year old Siena Piano (pictured) sold for $320,000 in 2020? Source: "$320,000: The amount a rare Nazi-seized piano sold for an aution in Israel last week. The Piano of Sienna's 221-year journey began in... (The Economic Times ET Panache 12 March 2020)
    • ALT2:... that the Piano of Siena (pictured) is simply the story of a pianoman extraordinary falling in love with the King's piano. Source: "Perhaps pianist Artur Schnabel put it most succintly when he said: Sometimes it happens that an ordinary man falls in love with the King's daughter, or an ordinary women falls in love with the King's son. But Carmi, pianoman extraordinary, has simply fallen in love with the King's piano. (The Fantastic Saga of the Siena Piano pg 66)

Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 12:51, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

  • I'll be doing this review. ALT0 is a bit too PEACOCKy for my tastes; ALT1 seems better at the moment. I'll get to more later. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:10, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have expanded the article enough to meet DYK requirements. Also, I have no problem with modifying or cutting ALT0. DTM (talk) 12:46, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
For ALT0, I would suggest changing it from being definite to having wording that goes something like "is claimed to have been...". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:13, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
ALT0a ... that the Immortal Piano (pictured) was claimed to have been partially built with wood from the pillars of the Temple of Solomon?
I'm not sure if this would work since the claim can't be proven for sure and personally I think it's unlikely to be true, but the option is there. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Samantha Lowe

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Article is new (March 14) and long enough (2218 characters). The hook facts are both appropriately cited inline. Spotchecks reveal no evidence of copyvio or close para-phrasing. Good to go. Harrias talk 07:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

American logistics in the Normandy Campaign

  • ... that of the 1,526,965 US Army servicemen in the UK in May 1944, 459,511 were part of the Services of Supply, which was responsible for American logistics in the Normandy Campaign? Source: Ruppenthal, Logistic Support of the Armies, table on p. 232. ([63])

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]

1813–14 Malta plague epidemic, 1675–76 Malta plague epidemic, 1592–93 Malta plague epidemic

Hearse used during the 1813 plague
Hearse used during the 1813 plague
  • ... that people failing to follow containment measures during the Malta plague epidemics of 1592–93, 1675–76 and 1813–14 (hearse pictured) were liable to the death penalty? Sources:
      • 1592–93: "Transgressors were punished severely with sentences ranging from flogging to death." (source (pg 223))
      • 1675–76: "A number of gallows were erected to deal with people who disobeyed orders. To set an example three men were hanged." (source (pg 42–43))
      • 1813–14: "those who knew they were suffering from the disease, and kept it secret from the health authorities, would became liable to the death penalty." (source)
    • ALT1:... that the theft of infected goods from a ship led to the plague epidemic of 1813–14 (hearse pictured) in Malta? Source: "the guards boarded the ship and stole part of the cargo ... Among the first to die were the guards themselves. Apart from these, the plague first slayed a girl from Valletta..." (source)
    • ALT2:... that self-isolation and social distancing measures were enforced during the Malta plague epidemics of 1592–93, 1675–76 and 1813–14 (hearse pictured)? Sources:
      • 1592–93: "he ordered everyone else to stay indoors for forty days with the exception of one person per family who was allowed to carry out the necessary daily errands." (source)
      • 1675–76: "The people of the Mandragg, the "Archipelago" and French Street - regions very severely affected - were told not to leave their houses ... gatherings in churches, squares, hotels and streets were made illegal."(source (pg 43))
      • 1813–14: "The authorities reacted by closing down the courts, the theatre and other venues where the public met ... ordered the closure of all churches" (source), "anyone who left their house without authority did so under penalty of death." (source)
    • ALT3:... that the plague epidemics of 1592–93, 1675–76 and 1813–14 led to the establishment of many cemeteries in Malta? Source: "The earliest known extra-mural cemetery dates back to 1592 (Cassar 1964:339). Other cemeteries followed in “the plague of 1675-76 and of 1813..." (source (page 597))
  • Reviewed: Will do later
  • Comment: If ALT3 is chosen, a different image showing a cemetery should be used, such as File:Lija places 03.jpg.

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self-nominated at 12:50, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Fulham Pottery

Fulham Pottery, 2016
Fulham Pottery, 2016
  • Reviewed: coming

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Calendrical Calculations

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Max C. Starkloff

Max C. Starkloff, M.D
Max C. Starkloff, M.D
  • Comment: Timely given the prevalence of social distancing for COVID-19. If you can suggest a more succinct hook, you are welcome.

Created by Peaceray (talk). Self-nominated at 06:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Gavin Dempsey

  • ... that professional Super Smash Bros. player Gavin "Tweek" Dempsey was once considered the best Bowser Jr. player in the world, but he only started winning tournaments after switching to other characters? "He was considered the best Bowser Jr. player in the game in 2015,[6] though he would eventually retire the character in favor of Cloud Strife, the character he'd use two years later in his first tournament win.[7]"
    • ALT1:... that professional Super Smash Bros. player Gavin "Tweek" Dempsey went from the 17th best Super Smash Bros. for Wii U player to the 2nd best in less than two years? "...in February 2017 he was signed by esports organization Phoenix1. The organization, which had previously only fielded competitors in League of Legends, called him "one of the best up and coming talents in Smash". At the time, Tweek was ranked 17th in the Panda Global Rankings.[6][8] and Tweek was ranked the second best Smash player for 2018 in the Panda Global Rankings, behind only Leonardo "MKLeo" López Pérez. By this time, Panda Globlal listed his main character as Bayonetta, with Cloud Strife and Donkey Kong as secondaries.[3]

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 02:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Robert Hunter (lyricist)

Robert Hunter
Robert Hunter
  • ... that Robert Hunter (pictured) was once paid to take pschedelic drugs in a program covertly sponsored by the CIA, and in doing so had hallucinations that later inspired some of his lyrics?

Improved to Good Article status by Vanamonde93 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:18, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (soundtrack)

Brie Larson in 2010
Brie Larson in 2010
  • Reviewed: Diversity ideologies
  • Comment: The first hook is an already-approved one from Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, so it could have both articles bolded now, if that's allowed. I hadn't worked on the soundtrack page until today, the hook hasn't run yet, but they didn't actually qualify for DYK in the same time frame. So, I also like the other hooks, and there can be many more suggestions if none of them stick.

5x expanded by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 04:17, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Sylvia Rose Ashby

  • ... that Sylvia Rose Ashby was an Australian market researcher who was once threatened with arrest if she did not stop surveying popular opinion on the Second World War? Source: Crawford, Robert (19 October 2019), "A Matter of Trust: The Ashby Research Service and the Business of Market Research", Australian Economic History Review, John Wiley & Sons Australia, Ltd, pp. 8–9, doi:10.1111/aehr.12183, ISSN 0004-8992; citing Ashby, Sylvia (1978). McNair, William A.; Larbalestier, M. E. C. (eds.). Some Reflections on the First Fifty Years of Market Research in Australia 1928–1978. Sydney: Market Research Society of Australia, NSW Division. p. 27.

Created by Chris.sherlock (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 16[edit]

Paradisus Judaeorum

Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk) and Pharos (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Mount Takahe

Aerial photo of Mount Takahe
Aerial photo of Mount Takahe

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Potters Crouch

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 09:22, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

2020 coronavirus pandemic in Maharashtra

Created/expanded by M4DU7 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

1968 European Cup Final

  • Comment: QPQ pending

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self-nominated at 09:23, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

The McLain Family Band

The McLain Family Band at the Carter Family Fold on January 7, 2017
The McLain Family Band at the Carter Family Fold on January 7, 2017

5x expanded by Fourthords (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Hale Nauā Society

  • ... that King Kalākaua's committee to revive the Hale Nauā secret society, consisted of ten women including Queen Kapiʻolani, and only one man other than himself?

https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/509/JL33209.pdf "Those present at the initial organizing meeting of the Hale Naua on September 20, 1886, were King Kalakaua and Queen Kapi'olani, John T. Baker, Mrs. Ululani Baker, Mrs. Annie Maikai, Mrs. Hannah Kinimaka, Mrs. Hannah Lilikalani and Mrs. Grace Kaahalewai, Mrs. K. Makua, Mrs. M. Kaahu, Mrs. M. Kawelo, and Mrs. K. Keaweluaole."

    • ALT1:... that ...?

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Laverne Antrobus

Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 00:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]

Renate Brümmer

Renate Brümmer
Renate Brümmer
  • Reviewed: Fountain of the Canals of the Pear Tree
  • Comment: The next in what appears to be a trend of early-women-astronauts-didn't-go-to-space/ nomination for WHM (if it doesn't get reviewed in time for March, her birthday in May 4, so it could go up then)

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 22:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Svedectvo

  • ... that Svedectvo claimed that the neo-Nazi Kotleba party "is the first authentic right-wing party to get into parliament and dedicate its program to defending the Christian values of our state"?
    • ALT1:... that Svedectvo receives a subsidy from the Slovak Ministry of the Interior, despite publishing apologist articles defending convicted war criminals?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Bräus

The top trumps in Bräus
The top trumps in Bräus
  • ... that Bräus is an old Swedish card game from the island of Gotland that differs from all others in that not all cards are actually playable?

"BRUS [Bräus] differs from all other card games in that not all the cards are playable!" and "Bräus är ett gammalt Gotländskt kortspel." Source: * Smith, Anthony (1993). "The Game of Brus" in The Playing Card World, No. 74, November 1993, p. 36.

  • Reviewed: to follow shortly

5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:37, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]

Valery Varfolomeyev

Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin
Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin
  • ... that Valery Varfolomeyev was personally presented with the title of Hero of the Russian Federation by Vladimir Putin (pictured)? Source in Russian: "On 28 December 2017 Russian President Vladimir Putin presented state decorations to military personnel who distinguished themselves during the operations in Syria...Rear Admiral Valery Varfolomeyev was awarded the title of Hero of Russia." ([71])

Created by Spokoyni (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Prof: Alan Turing Decoded

  • Reviewed: Primary One Admission System
  • Comment: First hook is a bit more "April Fools'"-y, but still factual (the ambiguous "he" refers to Alan, not Dermot). If it's not funny enough, the alt should work for a non-April 1 hook.

Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 13:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

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